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[email protected] wrote:

> du = obv!ouzl! 01 lo.tekk ueztrn !mbez!l
>
> >>alex galloway wrote:
> >>why is Barneys [barneys.com] not art but Etoy is?
> >>they both have a corporate aesthetic.
> >
> >no art responds:
> >both are suspect... the first is obvious because its
> >essential function is in the service of capital
> >selling a elevated class station and supposed status
> >to anyone who is caught offgaurd and/or sleeping.  the
> >second is a little more subdued.  etoy seems to
> >forsake any vital trangressive energies it might have
> >most obviously by its eventual compliance into a
> >certain "cult of personality"; not unlike barneys in
> >selling a product of "lifestyle" that basically
> >equates into a new liberal-left vogue or "simulated
> >act of transgression".  both barneys and etoy tell
> >lies only one does this under the guise of
> >establishment and the other under the guise of
> >anti-establishment.
> >
> >neither offer new models nor suggest other systems of
> >management outside this system. in fact both are
> >clever methods of incorporation into the established
> >system (accelerated capitalism).
> >
> >etoy is arguably more detrimental to artists because
> >it offers a new space for further capitalist growth
> >and acquisition under the premise of the
> >"avant-garde".  in certain ways etoy operates on the
> >same level of the new dot.com scene: relaxed
> >workspace, casual-hip attire, a high level of formal
> >education, liberal politics... all elements of some
> >new-mythos to further compliment, comfort and further
> >seduce the worker and hyper-extend her energies of
> >production far beyond the designated "work-space".
> >
> >twhid from mteww.com stated in a previous post
> >something to the effect of, "art isn't cool or hip or
> >always pleasing".  it is interesting and appropriate
> >statement from someone who is an artist supporting his
> >work via a dot.com and coming to the eventual terms of
> >its increasing madness upon the autonomous "act of the
> >corporate" instead of the preferred scenario of
> >vice-versa.  this skirts a serious problem with the
> >"artworld" (this online ghetto included).  there are
> >too many artists here that are too easy to get along
> >with.  it makes me happy to know "zero one dot org"
> >and brad brace both lurk out there somewhere...
> >
> >-na
> >
> >
> >=====
> >////////////////////////////////////////////
> >*PLEASE DO NOT GO TO YAHOO.COM
> >*DON'T CLICK ON BANNERS EVER AGAIN
> >*CAPITAL & EXCHANGE ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PSYCHE
> >--INSTEAD GO TO:
> >http://www.artnetweb.com/peppermint
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