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---------------------------------------------- 253f indifference 577b indifference 912u indifference ---------------------------------------------- simulation = boredom simulation- art = hyperboredom ? borders net.art = peppi & kokki ---------------------------------------------- [email protected] wrote: > du = obv!ouzl! 01 lo.tekk ueztrn !mbez!l > > >>alex galloway wrote: > >>why is Barneys [barneys.com] not art but Etoy is? > >>they both have a corporate aesthetic. > > > >no art responds: > >both are suspect... the first is obvious because its > >essential function is in the service of capital > >selling a elevated class station and supposed status > >to anyone who is caught offgaurd and/or sleeping. the > >second is a little more subdued. etoy seems to > >forsake any vital trangressive energies it might have > >most obviously by its eventual compliance into a > >certain "cult of personality"; not unlike barneys in > >selling a product of "lifestyle" that basically > >equates into a new liberal-left vogue or "simulated > >act of transgression". both barneys and etoy tell > >lies only one does this under the guise of > >establishment and the other under the guise of > >anti-establishment. > > > >neither offer new models nor suggest other systems of > >management outside this system. in fact both are > >clever methods of incorporation into the established > >system (accelerated capitalism). > > > >etoy is arguably more detrimental to artists because > >it offers a new space for further capitalist growth > >and acquisition under the premise of the > >"avant-garde". in certain ways etoy operates on the > >same level of the new dot.com scene: relaxed > >workspace, casual-hip attire, a high level of formal > >education, liberal politics... all elements of some > >new-mythos to further compliment, comfort and further > >seduce the worker and hyper-extend her energies of > >production far beyond the designated "work-space". > > > >twhid from mteww.com stated in a previous post > >something to the effect of, "art isn't cool or hip or > >always pleasing". it is interesting and appropriate > >statement from someone who is an artist supporting his > >work via a dot.com and coming to the eventual terms of > >its increasing madness upon the autonomous "act of the > >corporate" instead of the preferred scenario of > >vice-versa. this skirts a serious problem with the > >"artworld" (this online ghetto included). there are > >too many artists here that are too easy to get along > >with. it makes me happy to know "zero one dot org" > >and brad brace both lurk out there somewhere... > > > >-na > > > > > >===== > >//////////////////////////////////////////// > >*PLEASE DO NOT GO TO YAHOO.COM > >*DON'T CLICK ON BANNERS EVER AGAIN > >*CAPITAL & EXCHANGE ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PSYCHE > >--INSTEAD GO TO: > >http://www.artnetweb.com/peppermint > >//////////////////////////////////////////// > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. > >http://invites.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Nettime-bold mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold > > _______________________________________________ > Nettime-bold mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold -- lfoundation unsearch v 1.09 date---> Fri 31 march 00 14:55:49 +0100 url---> http://lfoundation.org/unsearch.html _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold