| Gil Tucker [ateliermobile] on 24 Aug 2000 19:58:37 -0000 |
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Original message and thanks to you. When against words a special letter is unheard.I think we produce quality thinking as always mimicking details.No singing roles when the poetic propoganda is lost. One finds expression in non-thought where silence dwells between the unsaid,the undone- when will we entwine speech without hubbling desire? (gt) human creativity and pedagogy part flight part conflict part blank part destruction. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:40 AM Subject: <nettime> Re: your mail > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 [email protected] wrote: > > > animal communication is typically non-syntactic, which means > > that signals refer to whole situations. human language is > > syntactic, and signals consist of discrete components that have > > their own meaning. syntax is a prerequisite for taking advantage > > of combinatorics, that is, making infinite use of finite means. > > > > There is some indication that human language develops out of what is > called "protolanguage"; Tran duc Thao speaks of gestural. Protolanguage is > non-syntactic; within this, syntax is seen as a sudden (catastrophic) > emergent property. > > > the aim of this work is to draw a limit to thought or rather not > > to thought but to the expression of thought. > > If this work has value it consists of one thing: > > thoughts are expressed in it. > > > or re: Web; thoughts become it. > > > words have a linear discrete successive order. beyond the very limited > > meanings of inflections which can indeed be incorporated in the words > > themselves humans cannot talk in simultaneous bunches of names. > > in 1972 I did work on human parallel processing / speaking of doubled > streams of language - one can't, yes. > > But the discrete successive order slides against itself; it's blurred, > onioned, re: Husserlian internal time consciousness; punctuation non- > punctuated, askew. > > But the discrete disappears with upgrade, you are right. You are right > everywhere here; I end up thinking of ruptured/stuttered time/space/ > memory. > > Cit dureaza filmul? > > > Forever. [email protected] > > - > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold