[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Fwd: [Fwd: Not in Our Name]

[aries@escape.com]

hey, who is this naive person who really believes that those soldiers were
'lost' on the way to their base? doesn't that sound ridicilous; "two civil
dressed soldiers getting lost in the palestinian area looking for their
base". come on, i can't imagine anybody being so naive to believe in such
shitty stupid lie. what kind of naivite is this?...

aries @korautonomedia

http://korotonomedya.gisam.metu.edu.tr/

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, beeblerox wrote:

> . ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [Fwd: Not in Our Name]
> 
> > why did you send it to me? don't you think i know the palestinian's
> > point of view? generally, it's all true. and you know my harsh
> criticism > of my country's policy over the years. > > but, there's
> also another that side. just yesterday two israeli reserve > soldiers
> that got lost on the way to their base, were put in arrest in a >
> palestinian police station. then they were beaten by the policemen,
> were > thrown out the 2nd floor window to the excited mob, who beat
> them, > stabbed them, mutilated them, burned them to death and dragged
> the > bodies tied to a car over the streets. > > can you, or anybody,
> justify this act? under any circumstances? can you > imagine the
> horror? > > they could be my friends, my family. they could be me.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: [Fwd: Not in Our
> Name]
> 
> > This is from a few of the many of us who can not stand
> > it.
> > Rachel
> > >
> > >
> > > NOT IN OUR NAME
> > >
> > > We are Jews and we have come here to say to the
> > > State of Israel and the world:
> > >
> > > NOT IN OUR NAME!
> > >
> > > NOT IN OUR NAME the live ammunition, the killing of
> > > children, the raging mobs your police permit to
> > > terrorize Arab communities within your borders, NOT
> > > IN OUR NAME the use of torture as an instrument of
> > > state policy, the taking of hostages as an
> > > instrument of state policy, the breaking of bones as
> > > a sanctioned state policy, the cutting down of olive
> > > trees, the dynamiting of homes, the collective
> > > punishment of villages, NOT IN OUR NAME the
> > > massacres, NOT IN OUR NAME the occupation, NOT IN
> > > OUR NAME the state sanctioned  provocations of Ariel
> > > Sharon, NOT IN OUR NAME, the weapons of mass
> > > destruction , and above all, NOT IN OUR NAME the use
> > > of the Holocaust as camouflage and propaganda.
> > > Israel is not the victim of the Palestinians. We say
> > > to Israel: You defile the memory of the countless
> > > victims of anti-Semitism when you invoke the history
> > > of anti-Semitism to avert the condemnation of the
> > > world for your aggressions, when the groans of our
> > > people become the marshal music of armies of
> > > occupation. The memory of Jewish suffering should
> > > always link us tenderly to the plight of the
> > > oppressed. That is what we mean by "Never Again!"
> > > That is why we reject the sinister "even handedness"
> > > that blames both sides and that equates the force of
> > > those who attempt to lift the boot of the occupier
> > off their neck, with the force of those who grind the
> > > boot into the neck.
> > >
> > > That is why we say to Israel:
> > >
> > > Stop the Killings.
> > >
> > > End the Occupation.
> > >
> > > Only Justice will stop a curse. And bring peace
> 
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