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Subj: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: David Ross is a Disreputable Person Running aDisreputable Institution Date: 12/26/2000 2:03:53 AM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (David A. Ross) To: [email protected] Dear Max: Are you out of your mind? >Shut fuck up about out of mind Your attack on me is unnecessary, unkind, and quite unfriendly. >If you respond to open letter, all happy again. I do recall my conversation with Peter Weibel, and I'm sure your comments were far more insightful than mine. >I question "internet more powerful than print press," you say, "This time revolution internal." Let world judge insight. Audience offended by your lack of insight, is all I said. Transcribe tape for all to see truth. I don't, however, recall your invitation to respond to an "open letter." >Maybe you filter out too much web art curious curator! See http://rhizome.org/object.rhiz?1866 for you to look! Unlike you, I still feel that I have a great deal to learn about the kind of art that is being made online. I am not at all dogmatic. I profess nothing but curiosity, open-mindedness, and respect for what artists try to do, day-to-day. >Not believing you good sir from inside your carpet office. Also know you describe self wrong, unintentional so what? I remain resolute in my optimism and hopeful that art will in the end enable us to be more, not less, human. >Bon idee, pero che faro senza Euridice? Dove andro? 3rd Street? I think I understand your cynicism >Unintentional curious and much to learn! Delenda est Carthago. and feel badly if you are actually so embittered. I also understand that your antagonistic pose is part of your shtick, >Getting you fired is part of shtick too for you to enjoy. and that some people find it amusing. With all due respect Max, I find it a bit pathetic, and a tad empty. >Poor suffering director with no good enough art to direct! So sad! As I said before, holiday greetings to you and yours. >President Clinton already send, so you send yours to Brad Brace prego! David A. Ross Nickolas M. Herman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 7:06 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: David Ross is a Disreputable Person Running aDisreputable Institution Subj: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary diskdrives Date: 12/23/2000 4:53:36 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (David A. Ross) [Director of SFMOMA] To: [email protected] Dear Max Herman: Holiday greetings to you as well, and may all your wishes for fame and power come true. David ++ I take it you won't respond to the open letter regarding your theory of "internal revolution" to be brought by the internet. Remember the audience during your speech with Weibel, back in '99, and how they said "the internet is so new and all your comments and ideas about are so stale and cliche"? I do. It's on the tape you made too, I'll request access to it one day. Perhaps you better lose it somehow. An open question: Do you trust David Ross to do what's right? I don't. I've met him and seen many of his posts, and I say he's just another corporate weasel who works for the rich. For more background on this dispute, check www.egroups.com/group/Genius2000Conference2000 and http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Archive2000.html (SFMOMA82700). Ross, you're a bum! Max Herman The Genius 2000 Network -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 12:56 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary diskdrives ++ The new agenda for digital art at the SFMOMA is paid for by Intel. Why don't we all get out there and start getting some. Let's get some. Let's get some. David Ross, fuck you. Hard. It's a sin not to act. Delenda est Sfmomo. Many humans die grasping for the things we are allowing to be murdered. Come on fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Max Herman The Genius 2000 Network http://rhizome.org/object.rhiz?1866 Now is the time + http://www.entropy8zuper.org/skinonskinonskin -> Rhizome.org -> post: [email protected] -> questions: [email protected] -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/subscribe.rhiz -> give: http://rhizome.org/support + Subscribers to Rhizome Raw are subject to the terms set out in the Member Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php3 ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:03:53 -0500 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:03:35 -0500 Received: from vaio ([216.103.108.202]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <[email protected]> for [email protected]; Mon, 25 Dec 2000 23:58:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 00:01:34 -0800 From: "David A. 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