Nmherman on 8 Feb 2001 06:50:32 -0000


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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Strategic Spam


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James:  

I agree with your assessment that anti-spam is way overblown and designed 
mainly to keep out disruptive or uncomfortable ideas.  Nettime never puts my 
stuff on the list, but they put a lot of crappy vestigial-art-world 
announcements and declamations on because they come from insiders.  Same goes 
for Thingist--same server as nettime no?--which was moderated for the first 
time, and pilloried for it, when I harshly criticized a prominent (new 
media?) artist from New York City.  G.H. Hovagimyan was the unlucky person 
chosen to implement and defend the moderation--which even extended to 
discussions by others of my work--and has a fulsome reputation now among all 
but a small portion of webartists (the New York City scene).

To prove this, just ask the nettime moderators if a discussion of Genius 2000 
on nettime would be spam a priori.  Mark Stahlman knows about Genius 2000 and 
many other nettimers do.  My work is in the Rhizome artbase, but I've left 
that list because of the outrage that resident webizens there cook up 
whenever I speak too bluntly.

The artworld, such as it is here in the U.S., has designated me and my ideas 
spam for two years.  Because I've stuck with it, they are now begging me 
(through third parties etc.) to give them a chance to save face.  I'm not 
going to.

Best,

Max Herman
The Genius 2000 Network
http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000

You wrote:

 I suspect that lurking in the background
are the television networks, movie studios and advertising industry,
lobbying for such legislation because they, too, see the possibility of
spam networks eventually rivaling their power for a fraction of the cost.
[I'd strongly insist you include museums too, like SFMOMA run by David 
Ross.--mh]  
Who knows, when we all have more bandwidth, independent producers could
spam the world with streaming video of their latest movies, writers could
distribute books and musicians could distribute their music.  If you're
the CEO of Time Warner, this would be enough to make you shiver.


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