[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> fuckin' revolution , man, i.e. Quebec City demo

[Nmherman@aol.com]

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Mr. Byfield, Mr. Salloum, Vrinda, Mr. Peppermint, Mr. Seekins, and Mr. 
Schneider:

I was mentioning to hear that molotovs cocktails are to be thrown, because 
here in my home city there were no disruptions.  I taped the whole 
demonstration, May 1, and no crimes were committed.  Minneapolis is a major 
city and by far there is no reason to believe that globalism will not fail 
here.  

However, I did see on the way home from the marches a real fistfight, man on 
man, one man hapless, and toe-kicked in the butt in a very disrespectful 
manner, and trying to hit the other man with an umbrella but was too slow.  
So, in regards of my video I didn't feel it was my purpose to incite violent 
acts against persons or property.  I myself was almost knokced over by a 
policehorse, but I was warned by a kind bystander and avoided contact.  Many 
other terrorists do however achieve contact.  Hitler was no mass murderer.  
He was merely a poor deluded fellow.  

By way of proof I offer the following:  the film "Star Trek Insurrection" 
contains very strict standards of Buddhist enlightenment and the bitterness 
of hell, i.e. death, but the evil relocator is burnt for being mad.  Now, 
every myth-story has one bad guy and one good guy who saves everyone from the 
bad guy.  In this case a man violated the Kessimer Accord and threatened the 
very fabric of sub-space.  He was greedy and selfish, prideful, mad, bad, and 
played to perfection by Lord Abraham Holyfield.  He fell.  Bliss came.  The 
trek goes on.  Yet therefore is not to commit violence a sin?  Must the evil 
man be pilloried and drowned, burned, hanged, and cursed to a dismal 
wage-standard?  Of course not.  

Everyone I got to speak on camera said "we need unity, we need to work 
together" and all that type shit.  But unity is fascism.  In this regard I 
have hereby founded the Eryk Salvaggio University, and will donate my tapes 
of the protest to his library and will endow the library with $12.00 dollars 
cash american.  The tapes are two hours long and show a great deal of police 
presence, loud shouting, protesting for better contracts for hotel workers of 
the local hotel union, and other items.  But be advised that for those that 
commit heinous crimes like the infamy of Timothy Thomas MacVeigh will suffer 
in eternal hell and damnation in the eyes of the justice system.  Moreover, 
the estimable Ted Byfield editor of nettime is a flatulent madman who, like 
his flunkies Fross and D'Artagnan will be met with many lenses, many ideas, 
and public discussions.  May 1 is over.  Let May 1 
begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

In the words of David Ross himself, editor of the SFMOmA, "Back when they got 
the printing press it caused revolutions but this time the revolution will be 
internal," and if you don't believe me check the video of his lecture with 
Weibel Zon Kunstmere where he directly added to my question and many other 
audience did.  For example, did you think that 
http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/SFMOMA827.html looked pretty and 
peaceful and good when it happened?  You'd be surprised how hard it is to 
fake that art but really doing it is some kind of disruption.  See, unity is 
disruptive, this much I'll grant you, who the fuck do you think pays for 
museums dumb motherfucker.

Sincerely,

Max Herman
Chief Faculty Selector
Department of Scholastic Censorship
Eryk Salvaggio University
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Genius2000Conference2000/message/1508


In a message dated 5/1/2001 10:34:18 PM Central Daylight Time, 
JSalloum@aol.com writes:

> Subj:  <nettime> fuckin' revolution , man, i.e. Quebec City demo
>  Date:    5/1/2001 10:34:18 PM Central Daylight Time
>  From:    JSalloum@aol.com
>  Sender:  nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net
>  Reply-to:    <A HREF="mailto:JSalloum@aol.com">JSalloum@aol.com</A>
>  To:  nettime-l@bbs.thing.net
>  
>  >From: "Vrinda Conroy" <vrindi@hotmail.com>
>  >Subject: fuckin' revolution , man
>  >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:47:02 -0000
>  >
>  >so, i guess i've missed out a bit on all the communications that have 
been 
>  >going on.  my brain and body have been in a completly different place and 
>  >communicating with people on the internet has been one of the last things 
i 
> 
>  >have been prepared to deal with.
>  >   i was a part of the madness in quebec city this last week and just got 
>  >home a couple days ago.  i'm still attempting to sort out emotions and 
>  >figure out what exactly went on.
>  >   i was doing basic medical stuff within an affinity group of some 
friends 
> 
>  >and everyone is fine, amazingly none of them, or me, got arrested or 
>  >seriously hurt.  many others were not so lucky.  Some other friends of 
mine 
> 
>  >were working within street medic teams and had to deal with insane shit. 
an 
> 
>  >older woman died in her apartment due to the amount of tear gas in the 
air, 
> 
>  >and there are also rumers of two protesters dead as well as one officer.  
>  >this has not yet been confirmed, but apparently it was broadcast on cbc 
so 
>  >people are looking into it to find out for sure.
>  >   there were many serious injuries, a person got hit in the throat by a 
>  >plastic bullet and was sent to the hospital, near death, and had to get a 
>  >tracheotomy. there were broken bones, shattered feet and hands, people 
>  >getting stitched up in the peoples clinic that was set up.  i won't get 
>  >into describing it all now but people are really shaken up.  there are 
>  >others who are still being held in jail with no medical attention, no 
>  >outside contact,  it's horrible and i don't feel words can describe 
justly 
>  >the trauma we all are dealing with.  the healing and anger and rage will 
be 
> 
>  >with us for a long time, perhaps the rest of our days.
>  >   there is a group of five kids staying with us who attempted to cross 
the 
> 
>  >border by hiking through the mountains only to get picked up by the 
police 
>  >and spend three days in jail. a friend was leaving town and found them at 
>  >the bus station with nowhere to go so he brought them here.
>  >   police targeted and fired indiscriminantly at people with plastic 
>  bullets, 
>  >rubber bullets, tear gas canisters, ambulances would not come into the 
area 
> 
>  >until it was considered "secure" by police. people had to be carried out 
>  >and some were sent to the hospital in taxi's,  some of those were denied 
>  >medical attention because they didn't have health care.  One woman whose 
>  >foot was shattered by a tear gas canister landing on it, was denied 
>  >attention, and sent back to the states on a bus, where upon arrival her 
>  >foot will have to be rebroken and reset.
>  >   people acting as medics were targeted and shot at.  guns with laser 
>  sights 
>  >were used to target people.  on saturday night the clinic was raided and 
>  >gassed, the medics and doctors that were working, along with their 
patients 
> 
>  >were stripped of anything they had to protect themselves (scarves with 
>  >vinegar, gas masks, etc...)  and forced to leave the clinic at gun point. 
>  >the police then fired several canisters down a set of stairs and then the 
>  >medics along with the patients were forced to leave with no choice but to 
>  >walk in the clouds of gas that had just been fired.
>  >   ambulances were used as 'trojan horses', they would drive into crowds 
of 
> 
>  >people and out of the back, squads of riot cops would file out.
>  >       along with all the horrible things that went on there were many 
>  amazing 
>  >and inspiring things i saw and became a part off.  people, some with no 
gas 
> 
>  >masks and nothing but pieces of cloth to cover their noses and mouths, 
>  >continued throughout the whole thing to throw canisters back, to attack 
the 
> 
>  >fence, as well as other activities that i will not get into over the 
>  >internet.
>  >   the sense of community and solidarity among everyone is amazing.  
close 
>  >friends are made extremely fast.
>  >   seeing this stuff and being gased in an extemely effective way of 
> causing 
>  >people to examine larger issues and try to figure out why this shit is 
>  >happening to them and those they love.  as more and more of these clashes 
>  >occur, more and more people become aware and feel they have no choice but 
>  >to participate in any way they can.
>  >   it becomes obvious that we live in a police state.
>  >this is all i'm going to write for now, if any of you have questions, 
>  >please ask me and i'll answer them as best i can.
>  >   i love all of you and hope that you too are not believing what the 
>  fucking 
>  >corporate media has to say about this. people are throwing rocks, molotov 
>  >coctails, taking over the streets for justifiable reasons.
>  >   we have concrete reasons to be filled with rage, to be hostile, and 
also 
> 
>  >to focus on loving eachother and attempting to change this world in our 
>  >everyday lives and with every choice we make.
>  >               love always     vrinda
>  
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