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| [Nettime-bold] An interview w/Thomas Frank |
Subj: [7-11] The Big Question Date: 7/12/2001 5:50:05 PM Central Daylight Time From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: [email protected] >From an interview with Thomas Frank at http://www.mediachannel.org/views/interviews/frank.shtml Q: Yet, scale for scale, the cultural shift requisite to reversing our impact on the natural world can only come of swift, wide communication and public change. If our tools of communication are contingent upon corporate media as we know it, then we cannot be using them in the way they need to be used. How do you imagine media in a whole new way? A: That's the big question. If I could answer that one. . . . Q: If we look at labor organizing against industrial-production monopolies in the Industrial Age, why not look at communicators organizing against discourse monopolies now in the Information Age? A: Maybe we will. Things are changing out there in the world of intelligentsia because things are falling apart in academiaâ”at least in the humanities. There is a floating army of unemployed Ph.D.s, thinkers and readers. Historically, whenever this happens, there is always a great deal of theorizing that goes on. At times like these, all sorts of wonderful things come about. Maybe we'll get a great cultural flowering, who knows? I don't want to minimize how horrified I am at the world, and how troubling it is, but at the same time, I don't think it's over yet. There are plenty of intelligent people out there. Labor unions are not illegal. There are many, many people disenchanted with the world corporations have made. To this day, I honestly believe that if the Democrats were to run on a platform much like the one they ran on in say 1936 or 1940, they would win by a massive margin. They need to talk about social class and going after the corporations. But they don't want to do that, the people in office now are perfectly comfortable with their ties to money. They're not planning on passing any great, sweeping legislation anyway. These things can be taken on, though; they can change. I don't mean to be a complete pessimist. 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