[Nettime-bold] Re: RHIZOME_RAW: max = shit head

[Nmherman@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/18/2001 12:34:23 AM Central Daylight Time, 
kosick@sprint.ca writes:

> Terrence writes;
>  
>  Huh ? An absorbent brain since nursery school?  

Yes, I was always a very fast learner of virtually any material.  According 
to those in charge of my education.  I am also very skilled at tennis, 
basketball, and chess; I play all rock instruments, am loved and remembered 
with respect by everyone that ever knew me, and have always been popular and 
had a good circle of friends, as well as good looks, fashion sense, and moral 
integrity.

>Max cannot make any use of
>  knowledge and cannot manage information with any grace. 

Grace is your criterion?  Grace comes from God.  So why did you ever cotton 
to Genius 2000?  I mean you act like you expected lots of gracefulness from 
me.

>He cites
>  information like a copyist mina bird. 

Oh bushwah.  What did Twhid call it, "cut-n-paste culture"?  Just some people 
don't use it the way I do.  Like this:


 ++++
Terrence J Kosick: Desktop #46 
My desk top is a meeting place. Stacks of comprehensible books along with 
barely
comprehensible scribbles of messages and random objects. My lingering 
thoughts as body hover aside it. Now and then working in unison those 
collisions of observation and mental organization coherently feeding into my 
computer by my key touches. Nothing can replace reminders at hand of those 
whose thoughts and minds i can touch by my communications.  Things close at 
hand are conveyances and reminders for the heart. The people and their words 
from afar are closer still.  

http://www.one38.org/desktop/46.html
++++

See?  Nothing wrong with that way of writing.

>He takes it in and passes it like
>  shit. And even draws on walls with it. 

I find this statement to be insulting and offensive.  However, it is much in 
line with what is usually said of people who don't make art according to the 
accepted way ("way" being the accepted people's preferences).  Call it the 
scatalogical refrain.  It goes all the way back to the beginning of history.  
Something to do with sewage, poor people, and what belongs in the 
museum-church.  It does hurt my feelings though, to see a man fall to such 
ignorant talking in search of mere professionalism.  

Plus I think you're being quite hypocritical Terrence.  Genius 2000 was 
always about the deeply evil professionalism in art that is strangling human 
life in almost every sphere of culture, because Art functions like a Church.  
Maybe you thought I was just joking the whole time and now that you think I'm 
not, you disapprove.  

However, I think what is more likely is that you are uncomfortable with the 
about-faces you've done regarding Genius 2000, and you're trying to blame me 
for them.  And that's just not right.  Please reconsider your views in the 
light of the highest ideals you can conceive.  If you remain persuaded that 
Genius 2000 is bad and I am shit, or a shit-head, I respect that.  You'd be 
absurdly wrong of course, and I would argue my case, but that's life in the 
culture of goofy humans.

His brian is as absorbent as a
>  babies diaper. 

You lie!

>To put it siply he exempifies the term "a shit head" and
>  should realize haw infantile his rants are. 

Quit trying to make me feel bad.  I just can't take you seriously when you 
make artschool putdowns like this.  You're making me have to dispute you, and 
lose respect for you.  I don't get it, you never seemed so enamored of art 
politesse before.

>  Pounding his fists like a
>  jealous little boy while Cary peppermint soared like a rocket to web art
>  stardom and right into art history .  

Good gracious.  I will give you one day to retract this, but after tomorrow 
I'll have to hold you to it.  You're sure you don't want to take it back?  It 
puts you squarely in the camp of the Tom Shermans.  Full of bilious rage.  
But it's so perfect, I hope you don't take it back.  

Sometimes I think for sure you are just trying to push me like a drill 
sergeant or coach.  I wonder if you're like a generous observer, pushing my 
buttons to make me get more focused and be more confident, knowing all the 
while I'm going to do fine.  Like Pat Morita, forcing me to confront Vader 
without going to the dark side.  If that's what you're doing I say thanks, 
and I have heeded your advice as best I can.  But in the end it's not you 
getting zapped with purple lighting by the Emperor, the corrupt Senator 
Pickwick or whoever.  I'm beyond coaching in most areas now.  

Very sad, max made a diaper wrapped
>  ass of himself. He never made the team. 

Even if you're correct, it proves the main thesis of Genius 2000:  that Art 
and Museums are about making the squad and being on the team, i.e. personal 
distinction and reward, not about the species as a whole.  Or perhaps you 
mean that I have the misfortune and malice to see it that way, instead of 
just cranking out loads of art and accepting success within the system.  Pale 
ire, envy, and despair is what you're accusing me of.  

I guess you think I could have been a very well-known and well-heeded artist 
by now if I hadn't been a whiner, and unwilling to embrace the backstabbing 
and sleaziness required of every winning art-shark.  You're implying I'm a 
frigid moralist like Calvin.  You couldn't be more wrong.  I just reject the 
current system.  I also think it does enormous damage and ought to be 
rejected by everyone, even the people currently striving and succeeding to 
rise up the ranks.  As for art history, you have to see the forest for the 
trees--an endangered forest.

>Like any lazy sloth 

They used to call Cezanne lazy too, because his pitchers were all scraggly.  
I think laziness was the main reason given to justify the burning of heretics 
too, when they were burning a lot of them and everyone thought it was OK.  
Criminals may be prideful and hubristic, but when there's a "business as 
usual" approach to fascism the unpersecuted figure it's the right way to deal 
with laziness.  Accusing the heretic of the sin of pride tends to lend them a 
heroic aspect that can cause problems, and drag the question of true justice 
out to the end of time.  Laziness is used most often.

Besides I'm not lazy at all.  I resent that.  But what else should I expect?  
Artists flocked to the internet to imprint a new medium and make a fast buck. 
 (Art doesn't grow on trees.)  I can see how some people would think I'm 
lazy.  But to you, the reader--not Terrence, these arguments are obviously 
for the audience--don't believe Terrence!  I'm not lazy!  Or let's hear from 
some other voices, as this is turning into a debate over my guilt or 
innocence of various charges.  Does anyone agree or disagree that I'm lazy?  
Or is Terrence just vomiting up the dirty, shitty diaper he thought was an 
ethic of professionalism in the web art scene?  (The question was, "Is Max 
Herman lazy?", not whether Terrence is vomiting a dirty diaper he himself ate 
long ago.)  Is Terrence trying to say I am the dirty diaper man?  Perhaps he 
himself is the one who is regurgitating the horrid lies of the artworld.  
This world is like a nightmare.  I think quality research could prove that 
people embrace fascism to quell nausea.

he tries to use
>  people the best he can to bolster his vague concepts like some screaming
>  little colon worm.

Genius 2000 concepts are very simple, accurate, and beautiful, as are many of 
the images and texts infused or influenced by them.  (For example, 
http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/NadiaPinata.JPG.)  Accusing me of using 
people is just the most atrocious demagoguery ever.  I was fully prepared to 
go it alone, for the species, until people began approving and asking if they 
could help.  I said, "I can't pay ya, but sure you can help."  so you get the 
cheerleader/disgruntled hanger-on effect.  But it's Cary Peppermint who 
really uses people.  He's using you right now to do his dirty work, so he can 
look like a gold star for robot boy!

And don't ever threaten to reveal damaging email about me again.  You bring 
it if you got the guts, and if you don't, shut your fucking face uncle-fucker.

>  
>  best
>  
>  T.

You're weak.

Max Herman
The Genius 2000 Network
Conference 2001 September 1-15
http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000


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