[Nettime-bold] RE: It was supposed to be such a beautiful day

["Ivo Skoric" <ivo@reporters.net>]

I agree with you Jonathan. Nothing, but more killing, would result of 
a simple retaliatory act. This time a more comprehensive and long 
term agenda is needed. The very reasons why anybody would 
engage in such act of suicidal attack should be erradicated. And 
ideological foundations can't be destroyed by cruise missiles. 
Those who harbor such ideas should not be killed - they should be 
proven wrong, so nobody ever listens to them again.

Two more things that puzzle me: why would those who feel 
oppressed by the U.S. politics, delight in this tragedy? No evil was 
ever destroyed by other evil. Evil can just replace evil: only good 
can destroy it. Osama bin Laden was an American sponsored man 
in Afghanistan during the Afghan war against Soviet Union. He is 
not a victim of 'evil' U.S. policy - he is its beneficiary. His turning 
against the hand that once fed him, does nothing more but to 
militarize U.S. society, giving more oportunity for U.S. to behave 
oppressive and arrogant to others. Palestinians are in fact 
victimized more by bin Laden than by Sharon. Who needs enemies 
with friends like Osama?

The other thing is purely technical: how was it possible for two 
large passenger jets to veer off course so dramatically (90 degrees) 
and fly in that new direction from Albany to New York (15? 20? 
minutes) without reaction from the ground control and the air force? 

ivo
From:           	"Knight, Jonathan" <Jonathan@JCWI.ORG.UK>
To:             	"'ivo@balkansnet.org'" <ivo@balkansnet.org>
Subject:        	RE: It was supposed to be such a beautiful day
Date sent:      	Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:43:55 +0100

This tragedy was predicted by quite a few sources over the last few years -
including the BBC. The question was not if it would happen - but when. Most
analysts thought that a single plane would be hijacked and aimed at one of
the WTC towers. The lapse in security was quite appalling and heads will
undoubtedly roll. I suspect that quite a few Muslims are amongst the
causalities - a fact that should be taken into account amongst those who
lump all Muslims together - Most Islamic states don't like Bin Laden either,
which is why he is in Afghanistan, but there is no doubt that he does have
strong ties with Islamic groups throughout the Balkans, including the
Bosnian Muslim leadership and the KLA and its offshoots. The attempted
assassination of Ahmed Shah Masood this last weekend was probably connected.

It is understandable that people feel there is a sense of poetic justice,
not because they have anything against the people of America per se, but
because people with no experience of war or the aftermath of bombing
campaigns on civilians have blithely been bombing innocent people in the
name of justice and humanity with no thought for the suffering of the
normally innocent victims. The have supported terrorist groups in other
parts of the world while ignoring the ramifications. Terrorists,
particularly suicide bombers and kamikaze types have a certain philosophy
which is unique unto themselves. They have connections with each other -
e.g., the IRA have close ties with both the KLA and FARC as well as most
others. Their way of thinking and their fanaticism is not as straightforward
as people think.

There is no doubt that the evil people will be hunted down and punished.
Afghanistan and Iraq will undoubtedly be bombed, but unless active steps are
taken to rid the world of oppressive Governments - I don't mean by this
bombing innocent civilians and encouraging a siege mentality, but by
economic and other incentives - the current rulers will merely be replaced
by others equally as bad and the whole cycle will begin again.

JDK

-----Original Message-----
From: Ivo Skoric [mailto:ivo@REPORTERS.NET]
Sent: 12 September 2001 18:22
To: TWATCH-L@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
Subject: It was supposed to be such a beautiful day


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Yesterday, it was such a beautiful sunny September day in New
York city that the only cloud in the sky was the one raising from
the rubble of the World Trade Center.



>From Manhattan:
ivo skoric

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