Andrew Hughes on Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:12:42 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] RE: <nettime> AUSTIN AGAINST WAR |
Your stand [Austin Against War] on preventing racism and the protection of our civil liberties is indeed admirable. But you seem to lack any stand on exactly how we should respond to mass murder on our doorstep. Let's take it as a given that the US has been involved in and/or backed ridiculous groups and ideologies in the past. That will no doubt continue (and should continue to be protested), being as you can't please all the people all the time. However, is there any reason we shouldn't remove Bin Laden, with all due effort to avoid civilian Afghani casualties? The Taliban, as it stands today, is mulling over turning him over to us. I doubt they'll do this, or even that they have the ability to. But according to most sources, the Taliban is no great bastion of Human Rights or peace-bearers either. My point is this: even if the US begged for this treatment through its past actions (which I strongly disagree with), do we as a country roll over and give in to these actions taken by a group recognized by the overwhelming majority (of the world and practitioners of Islam) as fanatics and extremists? Does that not remove our ability to ever improve? We can't become a loving charitable nation if all our money is spent constantly RE-acting to the attacks of others who have no redeeming agenda for the world at large. We have a responsibility, as one of the few countries with the money, power, or simply clout, to try and reduce the threat from people who simply don't choose to air their grievances in a less destructive manner. We also have a responsibility to clean up the messes we create and try to be as precise in our methods as possible (collateral damage is a lousy phrase). We rebuilt Japan, Germany, and various other countries, and should be ready to help Afghanistan in the same manner. Build some mosques, some schools, and maybe some general goodwill in the process, and take away a frightful presence in their society. I tend to feel the Taliban is no better than bin Laden, but we should deal with one monster at a time. As to the US creating bin Laden, it was in response to the Soviets invasion of Afghanistan. We taught and equipped him to fight back (if I'm wrong, correct me). He was thrilled to get our support when it suited his purposes. Now his purposes have changed, he's decided that blood-filled fanaticism is a good way to advance his cause, and we've got the bulls eye painted on us. I hope we get to him in a bloodless hand-off from the Taliban. After what happened Tuesday, anything's possible. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ andrew hughes code monkey ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold