| Ivo Skoric on Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:20:42 +0200 (CEST) |
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| [Nettime-bold] Re: one more thing |
Yes. Apparently - the terrorists presented themselves as regular hijackers. Hi, we are your friendly kidnappers. We have a bomb on a plane, but we don't mean harm. Just remain calm and we shall leave as soon as our demands are met. Only in the case of the fourth plane - where some passengers learned over the cell phone about the other three hijacked planes crashing into buildings, they realized that something was wrong with those hijackings. And they acted. All power to them. Too bad that none of them was train pilot. Although I think the hijacker drove the plane to the ground whe he saw the plan was unravelling. Only someone with a sick mind could imagine where the planes heading for WTC were going. I would, since I have a sick, conspiratorial, mind, be suspicious - because hijackers do not regularly pilot the planes themselves - that would raise a flag with me. Then if the plane would fly at a low altitude, that would be another alarm. I would try to engage hijackers in conversation, probing them for their demands. And, since they were not armed with firearms, I think that passengers would be able to overtake them in all 4 planes, if they thought what was on their minds. ivo Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:05:58 -0400 From: "Marko Maglich" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Copies to: [email protected] Subject: Re: one more thing They thought it was a regular hi-jacking: take me to Cuba, etc. The only plane where the passengers did manage to find out what was going on, seems to have been brought down by those passengers attacking the hi-jackers. --Marko Marko C. Maglich White & Case LLP 1155 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10036 U.S.A. Tel: 212-819-8635 FAX: 212-354-8113 [email protected] >>> [email protected] 09/14/01 06:49PM >>> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke The airplanes that terrorists used to destroy the WTC and ruin Pentagon were large passenger jets. There were 4-5 hijackers on each plane and there was more than 50 passengers and crew members on each plane. The hijackers were armed with nothing more than knives - exacto-knives, box-cutters to be exact. It sounds improbable that the passengers and the crew could not overwhelm the hijackers with the ratio of 10:1 in their advantage. That does however fit into my speculation that Americans learned to depend on the rule of law too much. They chose to be less free in the name of safety. The risk mitigating rules are preferred to the celebrated American personal liberty. Courage is suspicious and discouraged, pardon the pun. Common sense is taught to be secondary to the regulatory law. And everybody expects the authorities to step in. And when they can't, as this was the case, then there is a tragedy. But the real tragedy is that many Americans accepted to trade off their freedom for security and that the events of 9/11 will, perhaps, point American society even more in that direction. ivo >>A Nationalist is a Globalist who's city has been bombed.<< (that applies on all cities - Sarajevo, Belgrade, Bhagdad or New York) This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of t his communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error b y replying to the e-mail or by telephoning (212) 819-8200 during the hours of 9:30am - 5:30pm (EST) . Any other time please call (212) 819-7664. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Th ank you. _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold