Curt Cloninger on Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:11:14 +0200 (CEST) |
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ you know, i read someone saying that with the fall of the twin towers which were a perfectly postmodernist piece of architecture -- reflections of each other without an original -- the era of postmodernism ended. self-reference, irony, repetition, etc., all the attributes of postmodernism which basically devoid creation of reality, authenticity will be now void as reality came down crashing a hundred stories and rendered things meaningful. - Aleksandr Gitelman +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This is a personal feeling, not an academic response. I hope from now on we will know what we mean when we say that criticism cannot touch art in the way that raw experiences can; right now I don't care about theory. I want an art devoid of the terrible burden of its history- something that shows us it is okay to stay naive. - Eryk Salvaggio +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ When instead the reading is "no art can be made now, or not in any form but this [black page]" then yes, my objection is so violent that under certain circumstances I actually become angered... I reject the trivialization of art in all its forms, most definitely incl the idea that it isn't or can't be a crucial human activity in its own right. People are making art right now. Some are making it in response to all that is going on... that is the best way for them to order & prioritize the dizzying kaleidoscope of information, raw response, & shifting perceptions of fundamental valuation which they are being subjected to RIGHT NOW. Theirs is not an "art of observation", it is an "art of mediation", an "art of process", an "art of transformation". The spontaneous gestures we see all around now, from make-shift shrines, to displays of devotion, to registries of endurance & sacrifice... in an *artist's* hands these humble things can become profound. - Peter von Brandenburg +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold