| Lachlan Brown on Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:48:01 +0100 (CET) |
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| [Nettime-bold] Tolkien is fiction, not good government of a forum for academicdebate? true or false |
The point of my intervention was whether IT related discourses or cultural discourses were more appropriate for admin and governance' of academic inquiry. I think that the latter are, not merely because the association in question (AoIR)actually has a cultural studies mandate, but because the former IT seems to rely on Tolkien's imaginary systems of government, many of which have not been implemented because the creatures he describes under these systems of government, plausible thought they appear, do not exist. I mean wakey, wakey AoIR. Reading recent posts to AIR I see my good and to date entirely unsullied name is being dragged by AIR members through the mud of the Brandywine toward Rivendell on one side in a merry (and rather scary) regression by some members into Usenet folklore, and being cited to argue constitutional issues on the other, to argue for clubs or associations free of the opinions of others who would deny them their right. (As is their right under the 1st Ammendment). I apparently am denying them a right. This is appalling defamation of the worst kind. 'Troll' is a derogatory term, a Troll is a large hairy beast that jumps from caves and frightens people in Scandenavia. Trolling is a fishing term, implying false questions meant to mislead and deceive. WhatI have been doing is of course cultural studies: Perhaps we can recognise what's going on in AIR for what it is Othering. Its very weird to see this unfolding. It is very scary to be subject to these descriptions and identifications. And any mention of Othering should include Nationalism. I am learning a lot about America 'at this present time', I hope other people are too. I was thinking of going to Chicago in April. I dunno now. Land of the free, eh? Lachlan To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Nettime-bold] ... Kansas ... to Salem From: martin schiller <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:09:15 -0800 Reply-to: [email protected] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A message from Lachlan Brown on 3/23/02 3:53 PM contained... >> 4. Learning from Lachlan: All discussion of trolling should include fishing with bait while moving through a water medium. _______________________________________________ -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Win the Ultimate Hawaiian Experience from Travelocity. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4018363;6991039;n?http://svc.travelocity.com/promos/winhawaii/ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list [email protected] http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold