[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Privacy Won't Help Us (Fight Surveillance)

[Nmherman@aol.com]

In a message dated 6/28/2002 6:08:04 PM Central Daylight Time, felix@openflows.org writes:


> I think isolation and individuality should not be confused. I think what
> surveillance does is isolates you AND presses you into a group at the same
> time, but on different levels.


Good post Felix; I'd mention the similarities to Arendt's ideas about the totalitarian mind.  Surveillance as such I find hard to pin down--perhaps your point here--and yes I think simulation surveillance can be over-ironic and superficial in representation and expression.

However that certainly bridges the argument over to aesthetics which is pretty subjective at times.  Nauseous thought, imagine an aesthetically compulsory adherence to surveillance.  It's disorientingly "here" already.  Absurdism can be a counterbalance.

Arg,

Max

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