Aliette Guibert on Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:27:50 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: [Nettime-fr] GAZA


Est-ce que vous croyez un seul instant crÃdible ce papier sinon une
propagande sinistre et captive comme il y en a partout en ce moment.
Voyez vous, entendez vous, Abbas et ne serait-ce que sa reprÃsentante
à l'UE, Leila Shahid, faire une telle dÃclaration ? Alors qu'aucune
roquette n'a tuà ! Ou cela indiquerait que la guerre civile tant
espÃrÃe parmi les palestiniens aurait commencÃ. Or pas du tout.

Tout au contraire de votre palestinien "exemplaire" Leila Shahid qui
est tout de mÃme la porte parole officielle de l'AutoritÃ
palestinienne à Bruxelles pense, comme beaucoup d'autres officiels,
que c'est l'accord d'unità signà entre le Hamas et l'AutoritÃ
palestinienne il y a trois semaines qui a provoquà l'offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB9UctGeQ_A

L'OLP est pour deux Ãtats, le Hamas aussi. Ce sont les marxistes
laÃques qui sont pour un seul Ãtat dÃmocratique aux droits Ãgaux pour
tous.. Mais vous savez, si la solution à deux Ãtats prenait une forme
libre ils ne s'en plaindraient pas et s'en accommoderaient.

On a vu dans la Presse amÃricaine des interprÃtations Ãcrites et
parlÃes attribuant des victimes de bombardements filmÃes à Gaza à des
israÃliens victimes de tirs de roquettes en IsraÃl... Ã propos
desquelles les journalistes eux(elles)-mÃmes ont fait ensuite leurs
excuses.

Si une telle dÃsinformation vous interpelle alors il y a une
dÃfaillance grave de matÃrialisme historique dans votre lecture. Ou
alors vous voulez alerter sur l'ampleur de la dÃsinformation ? Et dans
ce cas merci : l'exemple est probant.




On 15 July 2014 06:56, Mathieu ONeil <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Juste au moment de recevoir ce mail je regardais la video qui suit, cette synchronicite m'interpelle, je fais suivre.
>
> M
>
> L'envoye palestinien a Geneve estime que chacune des roquettes du Hamas constitue un crime contre l'humanite
> (tout comme ce que font les Israeliens aux Palestiniens)
>
> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ibrahim-khreisheh-hamas-crimes-against-humanity
>
> The Palestinian envoy to the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva said in an interview last week that the missiles fired by Hamas against Israel represent a "crime against humanity."
>
> The envoy, Ibrahim Khreisheh, indicated in the interview on Palestinian Authority TV that such a sentiment might be politically unpopular, noting that he is "not a candidate in any Palestinian elections, so I don't need to win popularity among the Palestinians." He added that Israel is also guilty of "crimes against humanity."
>
> I am not a candidate in any Palestinian elections, so I don't need to win popularity among the Palestinians. The missiles that are now being launched against Israel, each and every missile missile constitutes a crime against humanity, whether it hits or misses, because it is directed at civilian targets. What Israel does against Palestinian civilians also constitutes crimes against humanity. With regard to crimes of war under the Fourth Geneva Convention âthe settlements, the Judaization, the checkpoints, the arrests, and so on â we find ourselves on very solid ground.
> Khreisheh went on to say that the Israeli army warned Palestinians living in Gaza to evacuate before a bombardment.
>
> However, there is a Palestinian weakness with regard to the other issue. Therefore, targeting civilians â be it one civilian or a thousand â is considered a crime against humanity.
> Please note that many of our people in Gaza appeared on TV and said that the Israeli army warned them to evacuate their homes before the bombardment. In such a case, if someone is killed, the law considers it a mistake rather than intentional killing because [the Israelis] followed the legal procedures. As for the missiles launched from our side, we never warn anyone about where these missiles are about to fall, or about the operations we carry out. Therefore, people should know more before they talk emotionally about appealing to the [International Criminal Court].
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Louise Desrenards <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 14:22
> To: Version Francophone de nettime.org
> Subject: [Nettime-fr] GAZA
>
> Palestiniens, Palestiniens outragÃs, Palestiniens brisÃs, Palestiniens
> martyrisÃs mais bientÃt libÃrÃs !...
>
> Gaza : des signes sur la route de la libÃration
>
> mardi 15 juillet 2014, par Haidar Eid
> http://www.criticalsecret.net/gaza-des-signes-sur-la-route-de-la-liberation,152.html
>
> Traduction d'aprÃs l'article original de l'auteur
> dans le support Electronic Intifada
> le 12 juillet
>
>
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