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| <nettime> NameSpace (get.xs2.net) banned from mail delivery |
[I discovered this yesterday (monday) after trying to send a mail to a friend (his actual mail-address is at Humboldt University Berlin, obviously subscribed to this mail-abuse-"service"): <<< 550 Mail from 209.48.2.39 rejected; inform your mail provider or see http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/enduser.html 554 <[email protected]>... Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; get.xs2.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 02:16:10 -0400 (EDT) I'm not sure if NameSpace solved this, since today the mails didn't bounce. BTW, my address too is a relay address at NameSpace and I don't have any delivery faults at all. But this is another fac. OK, I think this is interesting to know. gr./erik] <http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?209.48.2.39> BLACKHOLE LIST FOR 209.48.2.39 If you are an end-user, and have received a bounce message telling you to refer to the RBL for more information, please be aware that the ISP or site that you are sending to will not accept your mail. They have voluntarily subscribed to the MAPS Realtime Blackhole List. This list is composed of IP addresses that are known to have generated SPAM or Unsolicited Commercial Email, or provide SPAM support services. More information about the project, and what it does, is available. Note that the RBL does not, in any way, affect a user's email address, or DNS name. Only the IP address of the machine is involved. Please contact your local administrator, or ISP technical support center, and refer them to http://mail-abuse.org. We will be happy to assist them in getting their IP address off the RBL. This usually is as simple as installing a software update to the mail software on your server. You, as an end user, have not been singled out in any way. Copies of mail that prompted inclusion on the Blackhole list can be found by following the links for the blackholed addresses below. If you would like to learn how to get your IP address removed from the list, please send email, or call +1 650 779-7002. Entry Last modified 209.48.2.39 Sun Apr 16 08:37:11 2000 PDT http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ev/209.48.2.39-32.txt Sat Apr 15 18:27:34 2000 ---- Subject: Re: please remove our server from your list! Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:29:24 -0500 From: Al Iverson <[email protected]> To: NameSpace Admin <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> > We choose to > operate an open relay That's perfectly fine. That's your choice. We also have our own choice. Our choice is to list your server on our list because you choose to run an open relay even after spam has routed through it. It would seem that no further discussion on this issue is possible. Because you are readily indicating your unwillingness to address your spam relay problem, please note that I'm going to nominate your server to the MAPS RBL. More information about the MAPS RBL is available at http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/ Best, Al Iverson NameSpace Admin wrote: > > Hello, > > Your "service" has listed our server 209.48.2.39 > in your "spam abuse" list. > > Your extortive demand that we close down our > "spam" relay is over-reaching. We choose to > operate an open relay and have done so for > years, for the convenience of our mobile > clients who wish to use it. There has only > been, to my knowledge, ONE incident of abuse > in all of that time, possibly by a malicious > party whose aim it was to get our server banned. > > The offending addresses related to the sender > of the abusing mail has been black-holed on our > firewall and all messages have been removed from > our queue. They have also been reported to their > upstream providers. That is OUR job to do so, > NOT YOURS! > > We have a strict anti-spam policy and respond > as quickly as practical to any incident. We do > not believe, however that one incident justifies > curtailing services for our many legitimate and > responsible users, ESPECIALLY BY YOU! > > While it may be that the current laws do not > recognize ISPs as common carriers, the laws do > not give you the authority to extort any ISPs > or others to comply with YOUR preference for > setting up servers. Your list is a disservice > to all since it publishes open relays so that > people can ABUSE them. You are not helping > anything by your practices, and you are harming > many legitimate users of open relays. > > Remove us from your list immediately! And DO > NOT tell us how to run our services! > > Name.Space Admin -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Al Iverson Mail Abuse Prevention System, LLC [email protected] http://www.mail-abuse.org Wed Apr 12 09:00:12 2000 ---- Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: (qmail 6033 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 15:02:14 -0000 Received: from get.xs2.net (209.48.2.39) by mx00.comstar.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 15:02:14 -0000 Received: from Uu01bwB0W (ppp-66.tnt-1.hou.smartworld.net [64.38.18.66]) by get.xs2.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28032; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:00:24 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] DATE: 12 Apr 00 9:57:14 AM Message-ID: <vURl4ZOqV6t> Received: From 100.106.207.2(mailco.com.mx) by nelson.co.jp;Wed, 12 Apr 2000 9:57:14 -400 (EDT) SUBJECT: COMPLETE ONLINE BUSINESS!!! Build a residual income from time you spend on the Internet placing FREE advertisements like this. 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