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H: I see... I think. DDT: But what irritates me is when these mathematical formulae are used to report on the psycho-social realm in the media, or on the bottom of bills sent through my door or on urgent requests for humanitarian aid. The resulting mathematical systems get built into monstrous images accumulated from their poorly conceived calculation. H: So are you saying that these mathematical models, used outside of their purist application, are as agendaed as any nudie pic or black yardie gangster appearing in the morning paper or as agendaed as the software that will write up this interview? DDT: Yes. H: Is this new? Are there any differences between the modern maths and the maths used in previous centuries? DDT: In the 1950s new social situations required the handling of a great many pieces of interlocking information. Before 1946 a person computed with pen and paper. Ten simultaneous equations and ten unknowns and you'd be grown. Twenty equations in ten unknowns and you were dead. The possibility of making concrete the abstract formulations of econometrics etc required the computer, so of course it's not the same. H: Sorry, maybe I'm a bit stupid or something. What was the difference? DDT: The old models that were applied in the physical sciences and were tested over the centuries. The new ones have been rushed into the service of economics, sociology, politics, language, law and healthcare with very little critical forethought. This is creating powerful applications, churning their way through day and night, through field value after field value of non numerical questions. Pentium processors heating up to their maximum efficiency ceiling, and for what? H: What? DDT: The highly questionable assumption that problems in economics, sociology, politics, language, law and healthcare can be solved by quantification and computation. H: Isn't this a direct descendant from the numerical modernism of before 1946, which has clearly failed to deliver any real social progress other than the software to run shoponline.com, or a whole host of stress dynamics that gave us unliveable highrise buildings thrust on the poor? DDT: Basically yes. But I'm not going to apologise for previous generations. Numerical modernism had good intentions. It proposed that, if society can be reduced to a set of psycho-social statistics, then the poor and underprivileged would be exonerated from causing their own misery and would be able to prove how impoverished they were. On this basis they would rationally request, from the wider society generally and social elites in particular, that they should have a larger share of the wealth and health of society. H: But no thought was given to how they might say this. DDT: I thought that was why media and communications study was set up. To find out why it didn't work! H: Anyway, let's keep to the subject in hand...wasn't there a more radical formalist doctrine set up by the ultra-mechanistic materialists that stated: mathematics, because of its internal states of truth and falsehood, can be used to penetrate areas of the psycho-social and provide proof of their true states? And in proving them, expose them to rational thought, the scientific mind and the justice of reason? DDT: That's true. There was a more formalist hardline strain before 1946 but, after that, the problem with the dogma remained the same. Many psycho-social studies of society have non-numerical parameters. Let's look at an example: are black populations in the world the poorest? This can be answered with numerical parameters as long as there is some overriding criterion such as money. But even with this example it's banal not to question value systems across cultures and the dollar is just one particular system of value... anyway I'm getting off the point. The same question but with 'why' in front of it - 'why are black populations in the world the poorest?' - has no numerical parameters at all and so the statistics are crap. H: I see. So a lot of the statistics that are quoted down the pub or at the bus stop should have never been formulated because not all questions have a mathematical base. And to even ask the question is corrupt in itself. DDT: It does not stop there. It's popular confidence in these mathematical models that underpins people's ability to extend their thinking beyond their own concrete knowledge of the world that surrounds them. As you say, people quote numbers all the time. H: Ok, so what kind of systems are at work? Tafnus sat up glared at my naivete. DDT: It's the standard deviations, correlation coefficients that are spat out of Turing machines and held in the fists of the uncritical and of the procedurally corrupt. H: What's that? DDT: Bosses computers, running mathematical simulations and data mining, make monstrous social images rise up, which are formulated from these corrupt computations. The images are then used as vices with which to squeeze out of us every last drop of complicity with the conclusions of the social investigator. H: I understand that models of social investigation motivate us to make society move on, progress, get richer, get healthier, and that all is flux and must be optimised through the premonitions of the best correlation coefficients that money can find and so on, but what can be done? It's growing at a exponential rate. DDT: Look! The reliability of these models rests on discrete critical application. Removed from this context these models become the scaremonger's tools of fear for the apocalypse or, less dramatically, become the misinformation that hides the mistakes and incompetences of powerful elites. The computer lives by precise recipes, precise algorithms, abstract and general programs wherein the significance of what is done becomes secondary to the act of doing it. H: I see...this procedural corruption is the mask of formalism through which the world administers social disorder, reduced to an orderly set of data with odd numerical discrepancies to be tidied up. But what do you think can be done about it? DDT: You might argue that these models, when used out of context or when the criterion is inappropriate, are having a damaging effect upon the world. But, frankly, that is boring and not enough. Mathematisation will increase anyway. What we need is a critical engagement with these models, to tear them from their original context and aim them at arbitrary events, images and other manifestations. H: So what does this have to do with scene at the moment? DDT: You and your cronies seem to be skirting round the edge of the debate. Faking a website here, making a statement about agendaed software there, and sometimes - if we are really lucky - making excessive computerisation fun. But what holds back the scene is the reliance of its work on social, political, cultural, formal or economic value and validity. Work should refuse all these forms of meaning, in any cultures, social or economic systems in existence now or at any time in the past or future whatsoever. H: What, give up on commenting on the world around us? DDT: Yes. Perfect art has but one single aim and that is to reproduce the image of its innate uselessness, to form a void that disintegrates everything before it through irritation. Commenting is for the chattering classes. H: So the work remains critical? DDT: Disintegrate everything. Work should aim to disrupt as much sensible workings of society as possible through an invigorating tasteless, aimlessness, wasting of time and resources. The only use of computers allowed should be that of a thoroughly aimless one and the only use of theoretical and material items and practises allowed should be a useless one. William Blake The Institute for Post Predictive Computing <Perl Programmer>:<Sometimes Visionary> [email protected] # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]