Re: <nettime> Echelon, privacy and property

["porculus" <porculus@wanadoo.fr>]

> Money, and this will come as no surprise to anyone growing up in the age of
> finance, is a mode of communication. It is communication because it is a
> medium for relationships between people (and between people, objects,
> animals and machines, but that's another story).

hum first that money is communication is a selfdeclarative of a mondial
bank boss something fifteen years ago, as a good monetarist who knows the
crazy marginalist school and scuze me but 'communication' is there a pale
image of what this guies told about 'money'..and just for those who
remember of the extraordinary gide'writting on (gide'sfather was a great
marginalist) they knows what i am speaking about. second for the old
xtians mystics, money is the christ's blood that the richs steal to poor
and continue to keep for them prooving that christ is always on the cross
etc.. for colombus money could buy 'souls' (and don't take it just as
simony ..btw, indulgence and luther? remember something ?) so imagine the
super spiritual communicative mean of money for some centuries.. and about
the 'privacy' plato use already about for defining the 'idiot', for sure
it was not exactly 'our privacy'..but idiotic 'domestic' (often -female-
idiot?) oposed to clever public (often -male-?) etc..and hell really your
heidegger's 'private' let me stunned and him too i suppose, but this is
not so important

> Today we witness every day
> the vast 'obscenity' of mass intimacy: the near-compulsive revelation of
> our innermost thoughts in the liberating atmosphere of a global anonymity,
> Poe's Man of the Crowd in cyberparadise. (Baudrillard is often an excellent
> observer, just a lax and nihilistic commentator in an age where nihilism is
> the official philosophy of transnational capital

this is rather more....so why i hate baudrillard's mani�re, for exemple
here about so said 'obscenity' mass intimacy out of his panz

> Richard Barbrook said: I don't mind them spying on me as long as I can spy
> on them too... property is theft. And vice versa: data theft is property.
> property and theft are inseparable.

this remember me a pk dick's short story i don't remember the title, it's
about some alive ectoplasmique advertisment that could enter in your home
for telling their bla. for having some rest you could buy special gun for
killing them..but such gun is so expensive the poors can't afford..well
except mistake, except.. just for you understand exactly what richard
barbrook said : don't mind if the president can look at my sexpartner
taking a shower if i can monitor what the fuck that did under his so
presidential desk







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