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AW: <nettime> The problem with file-sharing
     "ritchie" <lists@pettauer.net>
Re: <nettime> The problem with file-sharing
     Bill Spornitz <spornitz@mts.net>

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From: "ritchie" <lists@pettauer.net>
Subject: AW: <nettime> The problem with file-sharing
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:49:10 -0800

>The basic misconception is that somehow creators will arrange bits for
>nothing, for world fame, for benefit of some fucking "community", etc. 
>They will not.
>The ones who will are allready there - and the result is practically
>content-free Internet.

Oh my goodness. whut kind of music do you people listen to?
In my entire life I've never read a diss as global as this.
free music is crap then, ey? the internet is content-free?
whut 'ya surf, framesets containing framesets?

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:04:11 -0600
From: Bill Spornitz <spornitz@mts.net>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The problem with file-sharing

The problem with file sharing is, unlike the current War, it is so 
darned popular.


The law makers can can make laws 'til they're blue-in-the-*,  some 
smart post-digital guys can pine about community or the true cost of 
content or the price we pay by forgoing the idea of *ownership* ( 
and, of course, the idea that *property is theft* or *information 
wants to be free* or *the network treats improper network 
administration like damage and routes around it* )  but the thing 
about ->the music, movies etc(the fileshared files) You see,    a 
good story/tune lives deep in the human brain, like a cow in a 
meadow. But it also lives in the collective unconscious too, like a 
bunch of cows live in a meadow, by the highway.  Can't stop that. 
Plus, cows are  *never*  unpopular!

And another thing:
The temporary simple structure of good music is becoming ultra-vital 
to people all around us. People are passionately devoted to their 
recorded music, whether on cd, or not and in quantities an order of 
magnitude greater than that of my generation.  People really love 
music! It makes them feel better about things, and good music has 
never been so accessible.


zoo-baw!
b

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