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Re: <nettime> ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move jeremy hunsinger <[email protected]> Dan Steinberg <[email protected]> t byfield <[email protected]> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:23:42 -0500 Subject: Re: <nettime> ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move From: jeremy hunsinger <[email protected]> icann has nothing to do with it as the whois demonstrates, that you can resolve the name, also indicates it isn't anyone in the dns system Domain ID:D73115378-LROR Domain Name:YELLOWTIMES.ORG Created On:24-Jun-2001 16:00:03 UTC Last Updated On:24-Mar-2003 23:28:19 UTC Expiration Date:24-Jun-2004 16:00:03 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R91-LROR Status:OK they probably broke their terms of service clause in their hosting contract. nothing new there, time for them find a new host and read the whole contract including any acceptable use provisions. of course the whole business could be a hoax too, and i've not taken the time to check. Jeremy Hunsinger Center for Digital Discourse and Culture - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:57:55 -0500 From: Dan Steinberg <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <nettime> ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move ummmm I dont see how this is accurate. I checked the domain status on both yellowtimes.org and newsfromthefront.org with both networksolutions and the appropriate registrar and they are both active with authoritative nameservers. Whoever owns the newsfromthefront.org website is the one who put up the sensationalist Account for domain yellowtimes.org has been suspended graphic. If authorities wish to suspend a domain it simply becomes invisible on the net and no one gets to play with graphics and put up nice pages about it. Censorship is a serious issue and spurious accusations of censorship do no one's cause any good. geert lovink wrote: >>From: steve zeltzer <[email protected]> >>Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 01:24:10 Europe/Berlin >>To: Labortech <[email protected]> >>Subject: ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move >> >>Account for domain yellowtimes.org has been suspended <...> -- Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology 35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec fax: (819) 827-4398 J9B 1N1 e-mail:[email protected] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:59:05 -0500 From: t byfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <nettime> ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move i trust that most nettimers are klewed-in enough to know that this report is false, at least in the sense that ICANN had nothing what- soever to do with this. but it's war, right? and what's a war with- out a little hysteria? if we're going to have a discourse, then we all have to pitch in. it doesn't take that long to plug 'yellowtimes.org' into google to see a cache from 'March 25, 2003, 10:31am': http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:FujLZQABlaYC:www.yellowtimes.org/+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 or to plug it into archive.org to see that they have snapshots of the site going back to mid-2001. really adventurous model netizens could even unleash something dia- bolical like the dreaded 'wget' on one of these archives. well, ex- cept that the story in question may not even be worth the bits its 'original' was encoded on: I won't listen to, or read, the news of the war. The only news I want to hear is that the murder is over. Murder? Yes, that word is carefully chosen. yeah, right, just like it was when GWB started prating about 'weap- ons of mass [gasp!] *murder*' a few days ago. I can easily imagine how the expression "shock and awe" was born. Remember, in America, marketing comes before anything. Everything from breast cancer treatment to Jesus is loudly marketed in this bizarre society. That's not even a slight exaggeration, although if you haven't lived there, you'll have to take my word for it. They are busy marketing terror, insecurity, and xenophobia right now, and that makes your chances of visiting America to research questions of this kind not very good. headline: 'end of world imitates onion, archived by google.' cheers, t [email protected] (Tue 03/25/03 at 07:36 PM +1100): > > From: steve zeltzer <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 01:24:10 Europe/Berlin > > To: Labortech <[email protected]> > > Subject: ICANN Shuts Down YellowTimes.Org In Censorship Move <...> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]