anna balint on Sat, 31 May 2003 00:15:29 +0200 (CEST) |
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<nettime> Nettime is dead |
Dear mod squad, i thought the contrary, that nettime is exactly the only list that failed to remain open in the new media criticism&art lists environment, every other list came up with an idea... I am one of those persons whose mails normally don't hit the nettime quality standards or does not fit in the policy, and this also makes me even more than oppose moderation, but besides that, i think nettime failed exactly because of moderation or bad moderation in several respects: - it lost the intimacy of personal communication and personal culture as opposed to commercial and largely spread push content and academic culture - it failed to cover both Western and Eastern underground culture, largely based on the aesthetic of the imperfect *West* or on formal perfection *East* [just think to nettime's resistence to ASCII art and culture, law-fi, or compare this mail of the mod sqaud with a former mod mail http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9802/msg00002.html] - the list suppressed or neglected among others criticism concerning female participation, race politics, multiple cultures, information and network culture - together with the increasing number of subsribers the list gave up somewhere to found the Neue Frankfurter Schule, but it also failed to concentrate on research both in the field of art and media. Somehow first it became a dog driven by the tail of media activism, a term originally coined by Toshia Ueno to describe the task of including subcultures and counter cultures in an interface remaking and changing the public sphere - now look, nowadays even online activism is meant for saving curators of the elite. Meanwhile, together with establishing, the list also became one of the many lists... - moderation is a good ground for abuse, it may exclude alternative views, and favour unjustly other ones, ex aequo et bono it does, and so does nettime's moderation model - just to mention the example of nettime's influence on the syndicate list once started to encourage East and West European art and information exchange, where the two West European moderators failed to recognize a subscriber's East European attitude and identity, and kicked it off the the list without the community's approval, without discussion, and even without letting known the unsubscription. Problems with the nettime moderation started with the rejection of posts that could have been relevant for the list content, goal and manifesto, and ends with the complete change of the character of the list. - Pit Schulz was sighing from his boots in 1996 that there is need of a software for a list, I don't know what happened since than, where is that software? Why did the nettime bold include all the spam, why the list was not set to reject non-subscriber's mail? Even a small list like syndicate, that has no instutional support except for hosting the list on a safe server, experiments much more in the field of information exchange, with the KKnut project for example, that allows direct interaction of URL, text, and a mailinglist. Have a look at http://anart.no/~syndicate/KKnut/. - if once the nettime meeting took place as a 'let's also do something' alibi when I wanted to go to Venice in 1995, and since i did not get the visa for Italy, i got the nettime list instead of Venice, now, together with the dead of nettime bold, i state that I don't need it anymore, this year I'll make it to Venice, and i am one of the five guards who keep alive the fire of openness at the syndicate list. greetings, Anna Balint 2003.05.28. 19:17:40, the nettime mod squad <[email protected]> wrote: >Dear Nettimers, > >We are closing nettime-bold. > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]