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Table of Contents: Re: <nettime> WMD and the Bush Whitehouse - Democracy is In Trouble Henning Ziegler <[email protected]> Re: <nettime> WMD and the Bush Whitehouse - Democracy is In Trouble [email protected] (Ronda Hauben) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:52:07 +0200 From: Henning Ziegler <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <nettime> WMD and the Bush Whitehouse - Democracy is In Trouble The current debates about George Bush knowingly presenting fraudulent evidence have been interpreted in some of the better German newspapers as a relatively meaningless issue. Of course the evidence was made up, as was (has often been throughout U.S. history since the last century) the enemy. That is what I would call performative politics. The debate could actually be diagnosed as another turn in the war game, at the end of which some official has to resign, which has been reported on www.indymedia.org right after the beginning of the war. Henning - -- http://www.henningziegler.de http://www.fotomat.org Neue Artikel: http://www.gendernet.udk-berlin.de http://www.dichtung-digital.org/2003/issue/1/ziegler/ http://www.nmediac.net/summer2002/hackers.html Nachricht vom Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 --> RH> The following article is online at Telepolis in English and German. RH> I welcome comments. RH> Ronda RH> The U.S. Government Case for War in Iraq Based on Forgery and Lies RH> http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/co/15062/1.html RH> Ronda Hauben 24.06.2003 RH> The Threat to Any Democratic Processes of Government RH> In the past few weeks, there have been many questions raised in the U.S. RH> and world press about whether George Bush knowingly presented fraudulent RH> evidence about the existence of a nuclear capability in Iraq. It was on RH> the basis of such Weapons of Mass Destruction,(WMD) that Iraq was said to RH> present a danger to the US. This was the U.S. government's public RH> justification for its war against Iraq. RH> Currently there are inquiries by the British, US and Australian RH> governments about the use of such a fraudulent case to justify war. One of RH> the most significant falsifications in the WMD public debate, is Bush's RH> reference to an alleged attempt by Iraq to buy 500 tons of uranium oxide RH> from the African country, Niger. In his State of the Union address on RH> January 28, 2003, Bush declared that, "The British government has learned RH> that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from RH> Africa." RH> Similar claims had been made by the CIA in their September 24, 2002 RH> briefing to the Congress. The case for Iraq's nuclear capability was based RH> on documents known to be forged as of March 2002. Yet the claims continued RH> to be used by Bush, by the CIA, and by other administration officials as a RH> key component of their case for the war against Iraq. RH> According to several different reports, in 2001, the CIA learned of the RH> claims about Iraq trying to buy uranium oxide from Niger. Vice President RH> Dick Cheney's office raised questions about this situation in February RH> 2002. The CIA sent a former U.S. ambassador, one who was respected in RH> Africa, to Niger, to speak with government officials there. The ambassador RH> learned that the dates and signatures on the documents being used to RH> support the claim were fraudulent. He reported his findings back to the RH> CIA. A Washington Post article=A0[1] indicates that the CIA sent the White RH> House a report of the fraudulent nature of the documents in March 2002.(1) RH> Six months later, however, in September 2002, the head of the CIA claimed RH> was still referring to a nuclear weapons program in Iraq. The reports are RH> that he referring to the Niger information, without presenting the result RH> of the ambassador's investigation. A number of Congressmen say they voted RH> to authorize a war against Iraq based on the administration claim that RH> Iraq had a nuclear capability. The Democratic Party minority has now asked RH> for a transcript of the CIA official testimony at the September 24, 2002 RH> Congressional hearing. They want to determine whether the CIA testimony at RH> the hearing presented the forged nature of the Niger documents. RH> Other CIA or State Department activities in 2002 and 2003 continued, RH> making 0the same case to justify a war against Iraq. For example, in RH> response to the Iraq weapons declaration filed with the UN on December 7, RH> 2002, Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the UN Security RH> Council on December 19, 2002. He presented the Security Council with a one RH> page State Department fact sheet in response to the Iraqi declaration. RH> That fact sheet stated that, "The Declaration ignores efforts to procure RH> uranium from Niger. Why is the Iraqi regime hiding their uranium RH> procurement?" RH> After Bush's State of the Union speech, the International Atomic Energy RH> Agency (IAEA) requested that the U.S. government provide evidence about RH> the Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium oxide in Africa. On March 7, 2003, a RH> day after the documents were finally given to the Agency, the head of the RH> agency, Director General Mohamed ElBaradei publicly presented that the RH> documents were forgeries. RH> On March 17, 2003, Representative Henry Waxman, a Democratic Congressman RH> from California, and minority Chair of the Government Reform Committee in RH> the U.S. House of Representatives, wrote a letter=A0[2] to Bush's office RH> asking for an explanation of how the case for a nuclear capacity in Iraq RH> could be built on the basis of forged documents. RH> He received a response from Paul Kelly, of the State Department RH> legislative office. Kelly writes: RH> Beginning in late 2001, the United States obtained information through RH> several channels, including U.S. intelligence sources and overt sources, RH> reporting that Iraq had attempted to procure uranium from Africa. In RH> addition, two Western European allies informed us of similar reporting RH> from their own intelligence services. As you know, the UK made this RH> information public in its September 2002 dossier on "Iraq's Weapons of RH> Mass Destruction." The other Western European ally relayed this RH> information to us privately and said, while it did not believe any uranium RH> had been shipped to Iraq, it believed Iraq had sought to purchase uranium RH> from Niger. We sought several times to determine the basis for the latter RH> assessment, and whether it was based on independent evidence not otherwise RH> available to the U.S. Not until March 4 did we learn that in fact the RH> second Western European government had based its assessment on evidence RH> already available to the U.S. that was subsequently discredited. Letter RH> from Paul V. Kelly, Assistant Secretary of Legislative Affairs, U.S. Dept RH> of State, April 29, 2003 RH> The U.S. government had used the case for Iraq's nuclear capability when RH> Powell made to the UN Security Council on December 19, 2002 and in the RH> President's State of the Union address on January 28, 2003, even though RH> they knew there were forged documents as the basis for this claim. Kelly RH> suggests that it was all right to continue to make the case, based on RH> hearsay evidence from some other country, until they learned on March 4, RH> 2003 that the other Western European government was also based on forged RH> documents. Such reasoning continues the deception. It doesn't acknowledge RH> the responsibility of government officials to honest activity in the RH> conduct of their office. Once forged documents are recognized, and Kelly RH> acknowledges the recognition of the forgery, there is no basis to continue RH> to make a case. There is the responsibility to challenge any other RH> documents which make a similar case. RH> While such an excuse for including discredited information in an important RH> speech like the President's State of the Union speech appears flimsy at RH> best, yet another explanation has been given by National Security Advisor RH> Condoleezza Rice when she appeared on Sunday television talk shows on June RH> 8, 2003. She said that the President's Office didn't know that the CIA had RH> judged the Niger story to be based on forged documents. RH> In a letter=A0[3] to Rice on June 10, Waxman quotes her comments. She RH> says: RH> =2E.I will tell you that when this issue was raised with the intelligence RH> community...the intelligence community did not know at that time, or at RH> levels that got to us, that there were serious questions about this RH> report. RH> Disputing Rice's claim that the State Department did not know of the RH> forgeries, Greg Thielmann describes how his office conveyed this RH> information to the Department of the Secretary of State well before the RH> State of the Union address. As Director of the State Department Bureau of RH> Intelligence and Research (INR) until Fall 2002, he explains that the RH> Niger documents were judged to be "garbage" by his office. He reports that RH> this judgement was conveyed at that time to the Office of the U.S. RH> Secretary of State, Colin Powell. Thielmann has been quoted in newspaper RH> and magazine accounts and has appeared on television interviews refuting RH> that the State Department did not know of the forgeries. RH> Whether or not the Bush administration recognized the fraudulent nature of RH> the Niger documents and the case for Iraq's possession of nuclear weapons RH> fraudulent before the first week in March 2003, however, still does not RH> relieve them of a responsibility regarding the discrepancy between the RH> nature of their case for war and the evidence they provided for that case. RH> Kelly admits that by March 4, 2003 the forgery was known. There was still RH> plenty of time for George Bush to reverse the decision to go to war RH> against Iraq. He didn't reverse it. No other reliable evidence was RH> presented at the time of any Iraqi nuclear capacity. Yet on March 19, RH> 2003, George Bush announced=A0[4] the beginning of a war against Iraq, RH> claiming that the purpose of the war was "disarm Iraq and to...defend the RH> world from grave danger." RH> One conclusion that can be draw is that it didn't matter to George Bush RH> that the reasons given to the public to go to war against Iraq were based RH> on fraudulent evidence. Whether the public was behind Bush's march to war RH> or not, was unimportant to Bush. He couldn't know that unless an honest RH> case was made to the public about the reasons for going to war. RH> What is the effect of having presented a fraudulent case to the U.S. RH> Congress, the U.S. public, and the U.N. Security Council, and the world RH> about the reasons for a war against Iraq? John W. Dean, former Counsel to RH> the Nixon White House, recently reminded the public that the abuse of U.S. RH> government processes by the President and other offices of government is a RH> crime of the highest order. Though Dean doesn't mention the fraudulent RH> nature of the U.S. government claims about Iraq's nuclear capability, he RH> does explain that lies by government officials regarding WMD in Iraq are a RH> challenge to the integrity of the U.S. government. Waging war against a RH> sovereign nation based on fraudulent claims and misrepresentations like RH> those presented about the existence of WMD in Iraq, is a challenge to any RH> pretense of democratic processes. How can people oversee what their RH> government officials are doing if the government officials openly lie to RH> them? How can there be any pretense of constitutional processes where RH> sovereignty resides with the people if they are not allowed to know what RH> government officials are doing? This is a serious challenge to the nature RH> and future of law and government. Whether this challenge can be taken up RH> or not is an important question for our times. RH> Links RH> [1] RH> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52813-2003Jun12.html?nav=3D RH> hptop_ts [2] http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_march_17_let.htm RH> [3] http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_june_10_let.htm [4] RH> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html RH> Telepolis Artikel-URL: RH> http://www.telepolis.de/english/inhalt/co/15062/1.html RH> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RH> Copyright =A9 1996-2003. All Rights Reserved. Alle Rechte vorbehalten RH> Heise Zeitschriften Verlag, Hannover RH> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission RH> # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, RH> # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets RH> # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body RH> # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] (Ronda Hauben) Subject: Re: <nettime> WMD and the Bush Whitehouse - Democracy is In Trouble Henning Ziegler <[email protected]> wrote: >The current debates about George Bush knowingly presenting fraudulent >evidence have been interpreted in some of the better German newspapers >as a relatively meaningless issue. Interesting. This seems problemmatic to me. Unless one is held to some standards, then chaos sets in. It is true that there have been lots of lies told by different sections of the U.S. government. But there need to be some consequence for lies. Otherwise the processes disappear. An oldtimer I knew who was a Flint Sit Down striker in 1937 and who lived on through the 1980s. A lesson he had learned through the years was that the democratic processes are very important. That one has to utilize and have an appreciation for them. How other countries like Germany and the German press view the US is important. That is why it is a problem that the U.S. President and his administration are willing to present lies to the people of the US and of the world. What are the consequences of this? This needs to be understood. With Watergate there was the effort in the U.S. government to learn something from the scandal. If there isn't from this scandal then there still will be effects from it. >Of course the evidence was made up, But what are the consequence of making a war based on lies? and forged documents? Wasn't this some of how Hitler functioned? Is this something that is accepted? >as was (has often been throughout U.S. history since the last century) >the enemy. That is what I would call performative politics. The debate >could actually be diagnosed as another turn in the war game, at the >end of which some official has to resign, which has been reported on >www.indymedia.org right after the beginning of the war. > But it is a deeper problem than that some official has to resign. It's a symptom of a deep structural problem. If the standard is that a public official can lie at will, what happens to the public processes and the citizens' rights in that system? What happens in the dealings of other countries with that country? This reminds me of the Brecht/Weill Opera Mahagonney with best wishes Ronda Henning - -- http://www.henningziegler.de http://www.fotomat.org Neue Artikel: http://www.gendernet.udk-berlin.de http://www.dichtung-digital.org/2003/issue/1/ziegler/ http://www.nmediac.net/summer2002/hackers.html Nachricht vom Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 --> RH> The following article is online at Telepolis in English and German. RH> I welcome comments. RH> Ronda RH> The U.S. Government Case for War in Iraq Based on Forgery and Lies RH> http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/co/15062/1.html RH> Ronda Hauben 24.06.2003 RH> The Threat to Any Democratic Processes of Government RH> In the past few weeks, there have been many questions raised in the U.S. RH> and world press about whether George Bush knowingly presented fraudulent RH> evidence about the existence of a nuclear capability in Iraq. It was on RH> the basis of such Weapons of Mass Destruction,(WMD) that Iraq was said to RH> present a danger to the US. This was the U.S. government's public RH> justification for its war against Iraq. RH> Currently there are inquiries by the British, US and Australian RH> governments about the use of such a fraudulent case to justify war. One of RH> the most significant falsifications in the WMD public debate, is Bush's RH> reference to an alleged attempt by Iraq to buy 500 tons of uranium oxide RH> from the African country, Niger. In his State of the Union address on RH> January 28, 2003, Bush declared that, "The British government has learned RH> that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from RH> Africa." RH> Similar claims had been made by the CIA in their September 24, 2002 RH> briefing to the Congress. The case for Iraq's nuclear capability was based RH> on documents known to be forged as of March 2002. Yet the claims continued RH> to be used by Bush, by the CIA, and by other administration officials as a RH> key component of their case for the war against Iraq. RH> According to several different reports, in 2001, the CIA learned of the RH> claims about Iraq trying to buy uranium oxide from Niger. Vice President RH> Dick Cheney's office raised questions about this situation in February RH> 2002. The CIA sent a former U.S. ambassador, one who was respected in RH> Africa, to Niger, to speak with government officials there. The ambassador RH> learned that the dates and signatures on the documents being used to RH> support the claim were fraudulent. He reported his findings back to the RH> CIA. A Washington Post article=A0[1] indicates that the CIA sent the White RH> House a report of the fraudulent nature of the documents in March 2002.(1) RH> Six months later, however, in September 2002, the head of the CIA claimed RH> was still referring to a nuclear weapons program in Iraq. The reports are RH> that he referring to the Niger information, without presenting the result RH> of the ambassador's investigation. A number of Congressmen say they voted RH> to authorize a war against Iraq based on the administration claim that RH> Iraq had a nuclear capability. The Democratic Party minority has now asked RH> for a transcript of the CIA official testimony at the September 24, 2002 RH> Congressional hearing. They want to determine whether the CIA testimony at RH> the hearing presented the forged nature of the Niger documents. RH> Other CIA or State Department activities in 2002 and 2003 continued, RH> making 0the same case to justify a war against Iraq. For example, in RH> response to the Iraq weapons declaration filed with the UN on December 7, RH> 2002, Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the UN Security RH> Council on December 19, 2002. He presented the Security Council with a one RH> page State Department fact sheet in response to the Iraqi declaration. RH> That fact sheet stated that, "The Declaration ignores efforts to procure RH> uranium from Niger. Why is the Iraqi regime hiding their uranium RH> procurement?" RH> After Bush's State of the Union speech, the International Atomic Energy RH> Agency (IAEA) requested that the U.S. government provide evidence about RH> the Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium oxide in Africa. On March 7, 2003, a RH> day after the documents were finally given to the Agency, the head of the RH> agency, Director General Mohamed ElBaradei publicly presented that the RH> documents were forgeries. RH> On March 17, 2003, Representative Henry Waxman, a Democratic Congressman RH> from California, and minority Chair of the Government Reform Committee in RH> the U.S. House of Representatives, wrote a letter=A0[2] to Bush's office RH> asking for an explanation of how the case for a nuclear capacity in Iraq RH> could be built on the basis of forged documents. RH> He received a response from Paul Kelly, of the State Department RH> legislative office. Kelly writes: RH> Beginning in late 2001, the United States obtained information through RH> several channels, including U.S. intelligence sources and overt sources, RH> reporting that Iraq had attempted to procure uranium from Africa. In RH> addition, two Western European allies informed us of similar reporting RH> from their own intelligence services. As you know, the UK made this RH> information public in its September 2002 dossier on "Iraq's Weapons of RH> Mass Destruction." The other Western European ally relayed this RH> information to us privately and said, while it did not believe any uranium RH> had been shipped to Iraq, it believed Iraq had sought to purchase uranium RH> from Niger. We sought several times to determine the basis for the latter RH> assessment, and whether it was based on independent evidence not otherwise RH> available to the U.S. Not until March 4 did we learn that in fact the RH> second Western European government had based its assessment on evidence RH> already available to the U.S. that was subsequently discredited. Letter RH> from Paul V. Kelly, Assistant Secretary of Legislative Affairs, U.S. Dept RH> of State, April 29, 2003 RH> The U.S. government had used the case for Iraq's nuclear capability when RH> Powell made to the UN Security Council on December 19, 2002 and in the RH> President's State of the Union address on January 28, 2003, even though RH> they knew there were forged documents as the basis for this claim. Kelly RH> suggests that it was all right to continue to make the case, based on RH> hearsay evidence from some other country, until they learned on March 4, RH> 2003 that the other Western European government was also based on forged RH> documents. Such reasoning continues the deception. It doesn't acknowledge RH> the responsibility of government officials to honest activity in the RH> conduct of their office. Once forged documents are recognized, and Kelly RH> acknowledges the recognition of the forgery, there is no basis to continue RH> to make a case. There is the responsibility to challenge any other RH> documents which make a similar case. RH> While such an excuse for including discredited information in an important RH> speech like the President's State of the Union speech appears flimsy at RH> best, yet another explanation has been given by National Security Advisor RH> Condoleezza Rice when she appeared on Sunday television talk shows on June RH> 8, 2003. She said that the President's Office didn't know that the CIA had RH> judged the Niger story to be based on forged documents. RH> In a letter=A0[3] to Rice on June 10, Waxman quotes her comments. She RH> says: RH> =2E.I will tell you that when this issue was raised with the intelligence RH> community...the intelligence community did not know at that time, or at RH> levels that got to us, that there were serious questions about this RH> report. RH> Disputing Rice's claim that the State Department did not know of the RH> forgeries, Greg Thielmann describes how his office conveyed this RH> information to the Department of the Secretary of State well before the RH> State of the Union address. As Director of the State Department Bureau of RH> Intelligence and Research (INR) until Fall 2002, he explains that the RH> Niger documents were judged to be "garbage" by his office. He reports that RH> this judgement was conveyed at that time to the Office of the U.S. RH> Secretary of State, Colin Powell. Thielmann has been quoted in newspaper RH> and magazine accounts and has appeared on television interviews refuting RH> that the State Department did not know of the forgeries. RH> Whether or not the Bush administration recognized the fraudulent nature of RH> the Niger documents and the case for Iraq's possession of nuclear weapons RH> fraudulent before the first week in March 2003, however, still does not RH> relieve them of a responsibility regarding the discrepancy between the RH> nature of their case for war and the evidence they provided for that case. RH> Kelly admits that by March 4, 2003 the forgery was known. There was still RH> plenty of time for George Bush to reverse the decision to go to war RH> against Iraq. He didn't reverse it. No other reliable evidence was RH> presented at the time of any Iraqi nuclear capacity. Yet on March 19, RH> 2003, George Bush announced=A0[4] the beginning of a war against Iraq, RH> claiming that the purpose of the war was "disarm Iraq and to...defend the RH> world from grave danger." RH> One conclusion that can be draw is that it didn't matter to George Bush RH> that the reasons given to the public to go to war against Iraq were based RH> on fraudulent evidence. Whether the public was behind Bush's march to war RH> or not, was unimportant to Bush. He couldn't know that unless an honest RH> case was made to the public about the reasons for going to war. RH> What is the effect of having presented a fraudulent case to the U.S. RH> Congress, the U.S. public, and the U.N. Security Council, and the world RH> about the reasons for a war against Iraq? John W. Dean, former Counsel to RH> the Nixon White House, recently reminded the public that the abuse of U.S. RH> government processes by the President and other offices of government is a RH> crime of the highest order. Though Dean doesn't mention the fraudulent RH> nature of the U.S. government claims about Iraq's nuclear capability, he RH> does explain that lies by government officials regarding WMD in Iraq are a RH> challenge to the integrity of the U.S. government. Waging war against a RH> sovereign nation based on fraudulent claims and misrepresentations like RH> those presented about the existence of WMD in Iraq, is a challenge to any RH> pretense of democratic processes. How can people oversee what their RH> government officials are doing if the government officials openly lie to RH> them? How can there be any pretense of constitutional processes where RH> sovereignty resides with the people if they are not allowed to know what RH> government officials are doing? This is a serious challenge to the nature RH> and future of law and government. Whether this challenge can be taken up RH> or not is an important question for our times. RH> Links RH> [1] RH> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52813-2003Jun12.html?nav=3D RH> hptop_ts [2] http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_march_17_let.htm RH> [3] http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_june_10_let.htm [4] RH> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html RH> Telepolis Artikel-URL: RH> http://www.telepolis.de/english/inhalt/co/15062/1.html RH> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RH> Copyright =A9 1996-2003. All Rights Reserved. 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