| jaromil on Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:14:54 +0100 (CET) |
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| Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 02:19:06PM +0100, Brian Holmes wrote: > Naeem Mohaiemen wrote: > > > People give all their data to large corporations-- you're damn right > > that's a concern, but IMC created that opportunity by not changing > > with the time. > > > > To paraphrase the Village Voice, the left stays pure and makes street > > theater while the right (and center) takes control of the levels of > > power. > > Indymedia was THE great inspiration and vector of the movement of > movements. On Friday I was looking for pictures of the Rome demos with > an Italian friend and I said, how about Indymedia? No, it's dead in > Italy. looking at this http://italy.indymedia.org i wouldn't say it's dead. your friend might update himself: indy.it had a year of going underground, while regional networks got stronger, looking forward to a new platform that would aggregate multiple feeds, respecting differences and a progressive verticalisation that was causing clashes in the larger "national" ((i)) context now is better than ever and, as in many other places in Europe, is a reference for "non-aligned" information exchange. Naeem and Theor, sorry to say, but yours are just rants ignoring the real reasons impeding the improvements you look for: licensing restrictions imposed by commercial monopolies of multimedia formats on-line. It is not to blame the inefficiency of our collectivity, but the prevarication of business monopolies, that now have an opportunity to exploit the memories you uploaded on-line using their proprietary formats. ciao - -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: 779F E8B5 47C7 3A89 4112 64D0 7B64 3184 B534 0B5E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkg6MsACgkQe2QxhLU0C17Q8gCdGL1Jf1bNfXZkC9AI+pwtxllq HYMAoMut+AA723Rkbuog1Rw9wXWCV7ky =Elcz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]