Kristoffer Gansing on Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:58:44 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate |
There seems to be two different, yet dependent, "problems" of concern in this discussion. One is as Jaromil points out about the exploitation of "your" uploaded content by companies with proprietary data management regimes. The other is about the paradoxical situation that collectives of leftist activists use tools and services owned by these companies with people behind them at the very opposite side of the political spectrum. As Brian Holmes earlier post is a testimony to, this latter problem stems from a pragmatical choice of necessity - using the tools that are at hand rather than waiting for the radical social media platforms to shape up. The continuation of this discussion however, seems to be locked up in a discussion of efficiency, as when Jaromil Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:45:17 +0100 wrote: >Naeem and Theor, sorry to say, but yours are just rants ignoring the >real reasons impeding the improvements you look for: licensing >restrictions imposed by commercial monopolies of multimedia formats >on-line. It is not to blame the inefficiency of our collectivity, but the >prevarication of business monopolies, that now have an opportunity to >exploit the memories you uploaded on-line using their proprietary >formats. Whenever we decry proprietary formats and the commercial copyright regimes connected to them, it seems that we do so in the name of some imagined right to freedom and control of information (information wants to... you know the beat) which is rooted in a progressive ideal of knowledge as shared, collective production. The contradiction within this ideal is that the need to still somehow acknowledge the individual producers of this knowledge leads to a competitive culture of skills and I was there first mentality. This has been most evident in the free software "movement" and its geek culture. Nothing new about that observation in itself though. But when we turn to what is happening to the cultural production taking place online today, it seems to me that we are all too quick to assume that there is some kind of straight line from free-software and open-source to Web 2.0 - as if the forces of massification didn't really alter the relations of production at all. I'm not saying here that there aren't critiques that deal with how Web 2 services have exploited the collective production models of free software. What is missing from this critique however, is a consideration of how the very notion of collectivity may have changed in the public eye. This change has to do with evident shifts in the construction of the private and the public. The blog it, post it, upload, share, tag, mashup, mix and re-mix it mode of production is for me very hard to either think of as a) content that needs to be copyrighted along traditional lines b) content that needs to based on an open-licensing optimised for collective sharing. The problem with the first is that it disables collective sharing and the problem with the latter is that the content itself is "bastard": a mix of everyday media and works copyrighted a long time ago so that open-licensing would be impossible on all content anyway. This is why most alternative solutions end up marginalized, they can't enter the new kind of media public where all content is potentially usable, not created from scratch or even just remixed from your online friend's content. This is where Web 2.0 companies have the edge - they treat data as an economical flow in the first instance, not as a social one. In this way collectivity has become economical too, a principle by which users decide to go public or not - without seemingly caring so much about traditional forms of privacy. (except when it re-surfaces as an economical or juridical issue) In spite of radical critiques a la cognitive capitalism, most people on Facebook or YouTube, and I think I dare to include most alternative media activists, do not see themselves as "workers" in these forums and this pragmatic mentality cannot simply be ignored in order to call for some more radical idea of collective, alternative media production. This mentality seems rather to be part of how the boundaries of private and public has shifted so that online production has become more akin to spam: there are filtering technologies yet more than half of all e-mails sent are still spam. In the world of social networking services , radical content become spam in the general economical flow of data - filtering only occasionally steps in when different stakeholders intervene. These could be the new media companies as well as in this case radical media activists - both have some stakes in the flow. In the face of this it is equally nostalgic to put your hopes up for a totally open licensing system as it is to crave for a return to strict copyright. It is by necessity always a negotiation taking place. As for building the autonomous space for sharing radical media - it seems strange to me that this should only be left as a question of development. As if it's mostly a technological issue and finding the (human or economical) resources to resolve it. Where is the basic discussion of how you actually want to create and share? Is it all about keeping up with the Web 2.0 mode of cultural production or could other ways of intervening online be imagined? In this case, it could be more productive if the pragmatics could be left aside for a moment and politics of participation be problematised. This does not mean, as Brian warned about, the simple anarchist withdrawal from development, but an engaging in the negotiation I tried to outline above. cheers, Kris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]