Jaromil on Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:12:42 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> what if we were all right but all wrong? |
dear Andreas, John, Armin On Tue, 01 Sep 2015, Andreas Broeckmann wrote: > to act on these systems is not a matter of clicking like-buttons, and > it cannot be done in innocently white t-shirts on the streets of a > shopping mall in vienna. (you may need a tie, or worse...) it may > mean, for instance, to protest and work to dismantle not only TTIP, > but also all the trade agreements that the EU has struck or wants to > strike with 'weaker' countries... : All your disenchantment looking at a demonstration of 30k people in Vienna and more all over Austria sounds like seasoned wisdom speaking. But please do not ignore the fact that this is all new and it may be a powerful beginning. After living for more than 4 years in Austria as a strange sort of EU migrant seeking asylum, I can only be surprised counting these numbers and thinking of how many people I know in .at that feel isolated when thinking of these political issues. This is all new: past demonstrations I've joined in Vienna for the rights of migrants back 13 years ago counted at max a desolating 300 people behind banners in embarassment. If the consciousness on how to consolidate such a popular sentiment in political action is still lacking, that is just a signal for new opportunities for transversal narratives to emerge and march towards some of the horizons that Alex tries to sketch. The momentum is there. In 2001 in Genova it was repressed in violence and that sort of prevarication was a the negative political differential that marginalized and at the same time united the people present, the majority being a very similar sort of good-doers Armin mentions. After the teargas and the beatings we ended up carrying for years the strong delusion for something that was not made possible to grow. These now may be different times, lets try to imagine it. I was also in London on the day Armin mentions, for the anti-war demonstration: it was 2M people and the voice of Harold Pinter at Hyde Park resonated through the hearts and minds of many, may he rest in peace, that good man. On the same day, in Rome, 3M people were on the streets, incredibly enough without big clashes to distract the media from the real focus of the event. What was still missing was the big German speaking critical mass we are observing now. It may be a slow and naive process in the eyes of pre-millennials, there may be hoops and hopefully no more Mexican-style mattanzas, but all in all I read a progression for the last 20 years and there are open doors for a new political season opening now which we can only fuel with hope and wisdom, less with disillusion, more with an analysis which is aware of history and of overall conservative liberal-left vs individualist-right polarized politics. Long live realistical utopias. Let's fight to give all migrants a voice - and perhaps an opportunity to vote. ciao -- Denis "Jaromil" Roio, Dyne.org Think (& Do) Tank We are free to share code and we code to share freedom Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 Confidential communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]