Ian Alan Paul on Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:38:43 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> 10 Preliminary Theses on Trump |
"Is you 10th thesis calling for a revolution without using the word. If so why not? Why avoid the word? Has it become tarnished by carrying too much historical baggage ? Or does te word simply not cover what it is you are trying to say?" Thank you for this question David ~ I certainly think it's an important one. Especially now. I hesitate to use the word revolution because the relationship between what we might call the "history of revolutionary movements" and the present remains unclear to me (this is also why I hesitate to use the term "fascism" in this text). When I drew attention to the absence of the word "revolution" during my talk in Amsterdam a few days ago, it was in connection to two other points I was trying to make: (1) : The tendency of those in attendance to describe them/ourselves as "radical leftists," another term which I think I would like to hold onto in some regard but am also unsure of how it maps onto the present conjuncture. It's possible we're in a moment where a left/right distinction is becoming less important in some ways, particularly in the political space of the state, and so perhaps it's time to either leave the term behind or alternatively to forcefully redefine it by laying out the new kinds of stakes that this situation requires of us. (2) : As my talk was reflecting on the historical emergence of Disciplinary Societies, and in turn Control Societies, I wanted to intentionally trouble forms of resistance that imagined that a reconsolidation of power could be an effective means of opposing recent developments (as you'll recall, some of the talks openly proposed that we should invest in Control Societies as a means of pushing back against Brexit/Trump/etc., something which I oppose). This of course is also part of the history of revolutions (the tendency of resistance to call forth new forms of power), and so I wanted to make this dynamic explicit in some sense for our thinking. One thing that remains perfectly clear to me is that we lack models for what successfully resistance looks like in the present, and so now is the time for what I would call speculative or experimental resistance. I think we should be striking out in different directions both as a kind of cartographic activity (as a means of understanding the current configurations/limits/concentrations/flows of power) and as a means of perhaps finding ourselves finally able to, as I say in my text, "make possible that which cannot be under capitalism." Best, ~i On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:22 AM, David Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you Ian for these cogent thoughts.. I have one question for you: <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: