Felix Stalder on Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:04:06 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Ten years in, nobody has come up with a use for blockchain |
I just watched this lecture, which really interesting and entertaining, because it's so full of contradictions that it seems to be able to capture the complexity of the moment really well. For one thing, neither in the talk nor in the question period after, Zooko -- a long-time, deep operator in the field -- could not come up with a good, actual use case. The best use-case was donating money to Wikileaks when it was cut-off from the credit-card network. But even during the most heavy lock-down of the Wikileaks accounts, one could always donate to the WAU Holland foundation, which would then transfer it to Wikileaks. My hunch (totally unproven) is that more money reached Wikileaks this way than as bitcoins (at least on the valuation at the time). And besides, the ever rising transaction costs (because of the low number of exchanges that can be settled per second, which Zooko puts at 3, rather than 7) make it as an actual means of exchange almost useless for everyday transactions (including illegal ones). So, the only actual use case is, really, speculation and scamming (which might well be the same thing). But beyond the speculative bubble, there are very powerful ideological drivers in this development. One is anarcho-capitalist ideology which wants to break the government monopoly over money (along lines developed by F.A. Hayek in the 1970s) and the other is techno-libertianism that believes, as Zooko puts it, that if you "empower" people, the resulting good will, somehow, outweigh the bad. Someone from the audience raised the question about enormous inequality in coin ownership, to which he had no reply beyond "that's a really good question!". Felix On 12/29/17 9:00 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: > And this morning on 34C3 in Leipzig ... lupus in fabula: Zooko on > "cryptocurrencies, smart contracts, etc.: revolutionary tech?" > > https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9240-cryptocurrencies_smart_contracts_etc_revolutionary_tech > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSs3wzoVpl0 > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > -- ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| http://felix.openflows.com |OPEN PGP: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=0x0C9FF2AC # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: