Re: <nettime> Moving Nettime to the Fediverse

[analoguehorizon@gmail.com]

Out of the woodwork we come.

My handle is @flgnk@social.coop (https://social.coop/@flgnk) which is
a cooperatively run instance. I'm not involved in the organization
side, but as a coop member I think it is safe to say 'we' raise money
for the running of the instance using OpenCollective (
https://opencollective.com/socialcoop ), things are organized and
decisions are made through Loomio ( https://www.loomio.com/socialcoop/
). There is a little more detail on how these pieces fit together here
- https://wiki.social.coop/How-to-make-the-fediverse-your-own.html
The coop emerged out of group that came together out of a campaign to
buy twitter and turn it into a coop.

I asked around earlier in the week and found that @nemobis@mamot.fr
has been keeping track of collectively organized instances -
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/Collectively-owned-instances

I've enjoyed the change to Mastodon, I've been finding the pirates,
hackers and free culture (an old term) folks that I've missed on
twitter. To be honest, it's been refreshing, as there still seems to
be some energy about these 'old ideas' that I have not encountered in
some time. Maybe it was always there, I just wasn't looking in the
right places.

There really is a wave of people joining. It makes it a lot easier to
switch when you can find people you know there. This is a very useful
tool to find your twitter people on Mastodon -
https://fedifinder.glitch.me/

I think it's an interesting experiment to have a Nettime instance on
Mastodon, and perhaps it could be something more. But keep the list
going too. I've been on so many lists that died, it really does take a
long time to build up a convivial dynamic among list participants and
it would be a shame for that to be lost.

Kind Regards

Kevin



On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 16:19, <d.garcia@new-tactical-research.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Nothing brings the gently glowing embers of
> nettime to life quite like the prospect
> of its immanent demise, when the mods launch
> one of their cunningly infrequent "shake-em-up"
> interventions.
>
> Whatever the outcome of this latest experiment
> the kick-up-the-arse alone makes it worthwhile.
>
> Thank You Mod-Fathers
>
> David Garcia
>
>
> On 2022-11-30 07:31, bernd kasparek wrote:
> > Dear nettimers,
> >
> > I joined this list some months ago, have never posted but always read
> > with great interest and consequential enlightenment.
> >
> > I of course fully agree with the argument about technical fixes to
> > social problems, but still feel that this is something that should be
> > explored more empirically in the context of the usage of this list.
> >
> > On the technical points: Yes, mail has become more difficult lately,
> > but it is not impossible to run your own server. Furthermore, it is
> > possible to run a mailman instance that is in full compliance with
> > SPIF, DMARC and DKIM, with the only caveat being the rewriting of the
> > from: header (the "... via mailinglistname" you might see on other
> > mailing lists).
> >
> > But I really wanted to make a different point: I thoroughly enjoy
> > nettime as a mailing list, I enjoy the long form mails exceeding 2k
> > characters, I enjoy the built-in offline availability my MUA offers
> > me, the discoverability, the searchability, the threadedness, etc. I
> > am not convinced (but I am open to persuasion) that Mastodon et al.
> > offer all that. Fundamentally, I do believe moving to social
> > media-esque formats will alter the way we discuss and read each other
> > and believe these consequences should be discussed a bit more in-depth
> > before making such a move.
> >
> > I fully understand that infrastructure maintenance is tedious, boring
> > and too often un-gratifying. But maintaining a mastodon instance will
> > also be that, once the initial setup is done. The plight of the
> > sysadmin is independent from the particular kind of tech she
> > maintains. If I can help out there, I'm happy to join the effort.
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > Bernd
> >
> >
> >
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