Felix Stalder on Sun, 30 Apr 2023 20:52:41 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> nettime back and running


Dear nettimers!

First of all, thank you Florian for taking the time to care, admits of the other stuff that has been going on, to resurrect the list! Kein.org has been a real home for the list for many years, and we are grateful for that.

The nettime has been offline for six weeks. The longest in its close to 28 years of existence. During those six weeks, only a very small number of people inquired about the list. Perhaps most of you simply assumed that the list would reappear and thought that downtime is no big deal, or you didn't notice because in the context of information overload, it's hard to notice information that is missing.

Either way, it's not the best sign for the vitality of the list. This means, something needs to be done. As the janitors of the list -- the list has had no moderators for a couple of years now -- we feel that it's our (last) responsibility to initiate this process.

To be blunt: we don't want to continue in the role of care takers. Not out of ill-feeling, but because we have done it long enough. Perhaps too long.

So, the options are: someone else steps up and takes over this care-taking role and infuses fresh energies into the list, or we close it down.

We are very happy that we can use the list handle this process, rather than go down because of a technical issue, but now that the technical stuff is solved, the social can take precedence again.

It's time to step up and care!

As the used to say in the bad old days: Silence = Death. And, we might add, so is hand-wringing.

All the best,

nettime janitors (Ted & Felix)


On 30.04.23 17:50, KEIN Florian Schneider wrote:
dear all,

please accept my sincerest apologies for the long downtime, but the mail server which hosted nettime-l, as well as many more mailing lists and individual KEIN mail accounts, crashed after more than 15 years, in mid march.

i managed to retrieve and recover almost all data but had to delay the work on the mailing list server due to an unexpected covid infection over easter. the good old but unfortunately rather outdated mailman v2, requires a downgraded environment which is finally up and running now.

it looks like nettime-l should work as before.

however, please note that the new domain name is: LISTS.KEIN.ORG <http://lists.kein.org/> and you will receive the mailing list messages from [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

all the best,

florian

ps: if someone has a proposal for a contemporary mailing list software that offers comparable and backwards compatible functionality with mailman, please drop me a line. mailman v3 seems not to be an option and many large lists and their archives experience the same challenge.



——
Florian Schneider
[email protected]

Professor, Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU)
President of the Society for Artistic Research (SAR)

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