Re: <nettime> Nettime-tmp Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3

Hey John. Thanks so much for the recap. Some thoughts on moderation and participation at the end, with context.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST)
From: John Preston <[email protected]>
To: Nettime-tmp <[email protected]>
Subject: <nettime> Summary of today's meeting
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Hi all,

Here is a longform summary of the synchronous meeting held today.

[snip]

We also talked about the role of moderation on the list, and making sure this is
also about creating energy in the list, and bringing new people into the space.
Ted pointed out that diversity is an issue for nettime, as the homogeneity has?
both allowed the list to last for a long time, but also caused it to "ossify".?

Vesna had some good suggestions for organising small meetups and remote hubs,?
and we talked about arranging meetings at in person events like Ars Electronica
and Transmediale. Also we said these should be publicised so we are making?
nettime an open space that new people can get involved in, regardless of if they
like mailing lists or want to be part of the list.

I also raised the idea of doing more events on-list and off-list, such as a?
'show and tell' thread where people can just talk about what they're working on?
at the moment, or having coffee calls where people can have a chat and get to?
know other people in the community. Someone also mentioned the idea of inviting?
people not on the list to write guest posts, which I like because it grows the
community and allows us to explore the use of a mailing list as a publication?
platform as well as just a space for connecting and discussing.

Similar to what you and Vesna are describing, I'm recently running across:

National Writing Month – since about 2006, they have had partners worldwide interested in writing and building community

https://nanowrimo.org/local-partners

We Will Dance with Mountains: VUNJA! – the sixth iteration of an effort by Bayo Akomalafe to get voices heard worldwide

https://www.dancingwithmountains.com/course-details

Museum of Care – more recent, with nika dubrovsky and focused on bringing people together

https://museum.care

Perhaps these provide some inspirational ideas. Speaking for myself, I've always been a fair-weather nettimer, so I acknowledge that my participation is and likely would continue to be sporadic.

All said, it's really lovely to see and feel how folks are coming together.

Peace, Louis

louisrawlins.com

248-808-8908

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1. Any other nettimers unable to join?
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2. Fellowship and RACI grants for RIPE87 available (Rome,
November) (Vesna Manojlovic)
3. Re: Any other nettimers unable to join? (allan siegel)
4. Summary of today's meeting (John Preston)

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 06:21:51 -0700
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Hi I though the meeting today was 14:00 GMT (UK time) but I can' seem to
join. Any others with this issue?

Best David

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:49:16 +0200
From: Vesna Manojlovic <[email protected]>
To: Nettime-tmp <[email protected]>
Subject: <nettime> Fellowship and RACI grants for RIPE87 available
(Rome, November)
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Dear colleagues,

The RIPE NCC is accepting applications for RIPE Fellowship and academics
to attend RIPE 87, in Rome, from 29 November to 2 December 2023.

You can read more about the RIPE Meeting at: https://ripe87.ripe.net/

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RACI
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RIPE Academic Cooperation Initiative (RACI) is supporting talented
academics in the field of Internet technology. Successful applicants
receive complimentary tickets, accommodation and travel to the meetings
and the opportunity to present their research.

To apply, submit a short abstract and draft slides via:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/forms/apply/raci-application-form-2023/

More information: https://www.ripe.net/raci

Subscribe to the RACI list: https://www.ripe.net/raci/mailing-list

*The application deadline is Tuesday, 11 September 2023.*

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RIPE Fellowship
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Having participants with diverse backgrounds, expertise, opinions and
experiences enriches the RIPE community. With the RIPE Fellowship, we
aim to create opportunities for individuals from underrepresented
regions, minority backgrounds, or others who would otherwise be unable
to attend without funding, to participate in the RIPE Meetings.

The RIPE Fellowship covers the cost of a meeting ticket, travel and
accommodation for successful candidates in the RIPE NCC service region.

Apply: https://www.ripe.net/participate/forms/apply/ripe-87-fellowship/

More information: https://www.ripe.net/fellowship

*The application deadline is Tuesday, 11 September 2023.*

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CFP
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And finally, if you do not qualify for these grants, you can still
propose a talk or a workshop at https://ripe87.ripe.net/cfp/

RIPE 87 will be a hybrid meeting, so both in-person and remote
presentations are encouraged and will be accepted.

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This is an attempt to increase diversity & cross-pollination between
nettime & RIPE communities...
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Warm regards,
Vesna Manojlovic

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Senior Community Builder, RIPE NCC
https://labs.ripe.net/author/becha/
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hacker / artists / activist :: https://UnCiv.nl

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:27:36 -0400
From: "allan siegel" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: <nettime> Any other nettimers unable to join?
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Hello, unfortunately i am in transit and can?t connect..l just saw this message and wanted to respond?
Best
Allan

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST)
From: John Preston <[email protected]>
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Hi all,

Here is a longform summary of the synchronous meeting held today.

There is general agreement to move to servus.at as the new host for the?
mailing list. They have about 2000 email accounts and a few hundred mailing
lists so there are no concerns about management or scale.

We talked about problems with bots, and they are currently working on a?
solution.

After the move, the intention for signup process seems to be to keep it the?
same as it is now: users have to confirm their email via a link, and then be?
manually approved by a moderator. We think this is currently scalable, effective
for managing spam, and gives mod team a feel for "who's coming and going", which
is nice to know.

We expect the move to take a couple of weeks, and there was some discussion?
about when is a good time to do this, given it's summer now. Eventually the?
archive and website will move as well, but probably that will happen after the?
new list is established.

An initial pool of new moderators is now being formed and I think people will?
meet again soon to organise this. I think Jordan, Christian, and Menno expressed
interest in joining the new mod squad.

We also talked about pruning the subscriber list and figuring out how best to
coordinate the move. This is an open question for the mod team to figure out?
what to do, but there were suggestions of using the invitation function on the?
new list to send out invites to everyone with activity in the last year, as a?
way to make sure the most active members are able to migrate effectively, and?
find a balance with just resubscribing lots of people who maybe don't want to?
be on the list.

There was brief discussion about using the nettime.org domain name for the?
mailing list, and this is still an open question. Ted would like to maintain?
ownership for now and act as a guarantor, since it also points to other services
like our website and the Mastodon instance [1]. Overall there did not seem to?
be much concern either way in terms of the mailing list, as we expect host?
moves to be few and far between.

We also talked about the role of moderation on the list, and making sure this is
also about creating energy in the list, and bringing new people into the space.
Ted pointed out that diversity is an issue for nettime, as the homogeneity has?
both allowed the list to last for a long time, but also caused it to "ossify".?

Vesna had some good suggestions for organising small meetups and remote hubs,?
and we talked about arranging meetings at in person events like Ars Electronica
and Transmediale. Also we said these should be publicised so we are making?
nettime an open space that new people can get involved in, regardless of if they
like mailing lists or want to be part of the list.

I also raised the idea of doing more events on-list and off-list, such as a?
'show and tell' thread where people can just talk about what they're working on?
at the moment, or having coffee calls where people can have a chat and get to?
know other people in the community. Someone also mentioned the idea of inviting?
people not on the list to write guest posts, which I like because it grows the
community and allows us to explore the use of a mailing list as a publication?
platform as well as just a space for connecting and discussing.

Probably there is a bunch of stuff I missed because I got distracted halfway?
through, and then had to leave early, but I hope this is a useful summary for?
the list! ?

[1] I actually missed that we have a Mastodon instance! It's at?
<https://tldr.nettime.org/> if anyone is interested ?

Thanks,
John (they/them)

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