| Joseph Rabie via Nettime-tmp on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 00:23:59 +0200 (CEST) |
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| Re: <nettime> Bioregionalism |
This raises interesting questions: What human activities are permissible, given the effect that we have on the planet? Was the passage from a hunter-gatherer society to a grain-cultivation society “the original sin”? Or was it inevitable, given the particular intellectual and practical skills with which evolution unintentionally endowed us? Are we to regret the fact that human societies transformed the world through agricultural activities, albeit in a way—before industrialisation—that changed the biosphere, but did not destroy it? That is, we turned what was originally wilderness into a no-longer wholly natural garden, but a garden nonetheless? That is to say, though not undestructive, creating new biodiverse harmonies? Joe. > Le 20 juil. 2023 à 21:44, mp via Nettime-tmp <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > >> On 7/20/23 18:11, Joseph Rabie via Nettime-tmp wrote: >> >> The issues in Europe are very different from those in the "New" >> World, where local populations lived in light symbiosis with the land >> until the colonialists arrived. Nature in Europe has been transformed >> over millennia by agricultural society, that has created largely >> humanised urban and rural landscapes (even seemingly natural mountain >> forests have been the object of husbandry), yet in harmony with the >> biosphere, until the industrial age turned vast swathes into an >> open-air factory. > > See (geomorphologist) David Montgomery on soil and the plough. Then the idea of "harmony with the biosphere" appear rather difficult to entertain. > > In general, ideas of profound discontinuity and "modernity before/after thinking" hide the the shared, basic parameters of all grain-based civilisations the last 5/6/7000 years: plough and extract until collapse. > > In that sense, such ideas of paradigmatic ruptures paradoxically serve the very type of system that they confront, keeping the shared underlying dynamics hidden from view, whole focusing on "exceptions". > > https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/587916.Dirt > > https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36236132-growing-a-revolution > > ... > .. > . > ------------ > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://mail.ljudmila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-tmp # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: