Re: <nettime> Imagine

[David Garcia via Nettime-tmp <nettime-tmp@mail.ljudmila.org>]

Thanks Chris, one response that has struck me as a strong candidate, was 
the response when I asked my partner, Nanette, to name just one 
significant thing that would be different if the internet had never been 
invented... She gave a one word answer "TRUMP".


On 2023-08-01 07:22, christine treguier wrote:
> Thanks for that challenge  david. Not easy indeed and politically so
> interesting. A way to un-knitt, or re-knitt what has been mistakingnly
> knitted...
>
> Chris
>
> Le 01/08/2023 à 11:20, David Garcia via Nettime-tmp a écrit :
> > Science fiction is by no means always about the future it can also
> > start by imagining an alternative past or present but with a single 
> > key
> > counterfactual that changes everything. So taking this as a starting
> > point let's suppose the internet had never been invented (or otherwise
> > come into being). In this scenario the computer is still there, mobile
> > telephony is still there, just not the internet. There are those who
> > might argue that such a proposition is itself technologically
> > illiterate as the internet follows as inevitably as night follows day
> > from the existence and proximity of telephony and computers. So the
> > marriage is inevitable as is the progeny. To which I reply; of course
> > but that is the author’s challenge, to imagine a plausible set of
> > circumstantial obstacles, social, political, technical or military. 
> > How
> > might it have happened and how would the world look? what would have
> > changed? The exercise is in some sense a war against amnesia as even
> > those of us born before the age of mass computing would struggle to
> > remember what life was like before the internet.
> >
> > David Garcia
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