| Felix Stalder via nettime-l on Sun, 1 Oct 2023 17:27:55 +0200 (CEST) |
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| Re: <nettime> recently published texts on networkcultures.org |
Nettime's archive is full of great discussions that stay in the archive because the format of email threads does not communicate well after the fact.
So a practice of re-elaboration, of condensing and stretching could be really helpful to allow ideas to travel beyond the setting in which they were first elaborated.
Also, it might help the publication format to grow organically, both in styles and subjects, depending were discussions really coalesce. It might also be interesting as a writing experiments, where different people engaged in a discussion could collaborate to transform their singular perspectives into a shared text.
Technically, it doesn't need much more than a blog with basic design and at least medium-term maintenance.
On 9/30/23 11:31, Allan Siegel via nettime-l wrote:
Hello,Following up on some points made by Brian: this idea of re-elaboration is great - it would create a kind of conversational format where are others can join in; this becomes an expansion of the types of back-and-forth that exists already; an idea would be to find a way of indexing these discussions before they disappear into the digital clouds...Also, I think, as Brian intimated, "polished things" is not the goal but rather the focus is imagining a discursive space where a wide range of discussions that can appear as in a public square: humorous exchanges, profound asides, off-the-cuff declarations etc... I would emphasize that Nettime-J is a magazine not a journal OR a bulletin board; what we want to develop is a framework that encourages, "actual dialogue and the exchange of ideas" (thanks, John).best allan On 29/09/2023 17:49, Brian Holmes wrote:Dear all,Nettime-j, it's a totally interesting idea. I would love to see nettime become generative beyond its traditional format. In that regard I tried Mastodon, but I'm just not into chat... or even, incisive but isolated comments, which would be a more fair description.Many nettime posts could be published out of the box. I agree with Allan that the heterogeneous side of the list should be preserved - academic is fine if you feel it, but there are many ways to write.Most interesting for me would be a journal that requests from an author or authors a re-eleaboration of some ideas that came out in a debate. Because often these debates take place, and retrospectively, the whole subject becomes much more expansive and interesting and precise than one could perceive at the start.That would also discourage people from writing polished things that are only posted on the list because the author wants to be published in the journal. Instead we would just take what we are already doing and push it further, toward something really original that reaches out beyond its own charmed circle.all the best, BrianOn Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 7:05 AM Allan Siegel via nettime-l <[email protected]> wrote:Hello, On 29/09/2023 11:57, Christian Swertz via nettime-l wrote: > Maybe the journal can be innovative and traditional and open to > academic and non-academic authors and audiences? So kind of diverse - > like the list? This can be done in a journal, for instance, by > creating different departments. Or issues. Or papers. Or formats. One > department can be something like "HUMANities" and offer even peer > review for those who like or somehow need it, while another department > might be "arTworK" where videos, photos, sounds, poems, stories ... > are published. I have nothing against academic journals - but I think the idea is that the 'language' we encourage is diverse and even bi-lingual if necessary; departments are a good idea, like sections or zones or playgrounds... actually I like the idea of arTworK - sections with visual signs like paths of discovery... I am waiting to see if there are other responses to this idea; so far Ihave only seen yours and Geert's interest in the idea of a magazine...best a-- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission# <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://www.nettime.org # contact: [email protected]
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