Re: <nettime> silence on Palestine?

[Allan Siegel via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

Hello Nettime...

"On 09/10/2023 22:06, Brian Holmes via nettime-l wrote:
> In the situation of chaos it is important, not only to state one's own 
> beliefs, but to actually listen to others. The debates within civil 
> society, and the formation of public opinion, do exert some influence 
> over the behavior of states. If left/progressive voices are not heard, 
> well, that's our fault, we need to be more convincing.
AND

There is no reason to believe that a simple breakdown of the Euro-American hegemony is positive in and of itself. But the world has embarked on a bloody political transformation, under the shadow of catastrophic earth-system changes." both of these from Brian's post.

And, I would add to Brian's comments that not only do we need to be more 
convincing but also to persistently update concepts of what the public 
sphere encompasses and the forms of communication that enliven debates 
within civil society. The chorus of progressive voices is very 
fragmented with the sopranos not listening (or simply paying lip 
service) to the tenors. This is very problematic because the droning 
sounds of neo-fascism have a consistency that appeals to large segments 
of our various societies. Brian's second point I think is extremely 
important "catastrophic earth-system changes"are inseparable from the other political issues that we are contending 
with (like the Israeli/Palestinian conflict) and we need to maintain 
political networks that reinforce these connections. best allan


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