Re: <nettime> Sign the BAN X in EUROPE petition and join the campaign

[Simon Biggs via nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>]

Quoting geert@xs4all.nl below

I am fully sympathetic with everything Geert writes. However, I don’t think a call for a ban of a particular social media platform will be effective. Too many laws and vested interests to deal with. In Australia the government is considering an age related ban on the use of all (or most) social media (eg: under16s not permitted to access social media platforms). Of course the practicalities of how this might be enforced are not clear (age verification systems are a blunt surveillance tool that will be easily subverted). What has been effective is the banning of mobile devices in schools (in some Australian states), which has apparently led to a reduction in bullying (surprise, surprise). But I despair about what there is to do about the larger picture - but then I am in despair about many things in this world.

Personally I stopped using all social media several years ago. A personal boycott, if you like. I still use email and subscribe to a couple of (now veteran) listservs (like Nettime). I never had a Facebook account but did have Twitter and Instagram accounts (both deleted long ago). Have I missed these platforms being part of my life? In a sense yes - I no longer have an easy 'go to' when I want to be brain dead and wasting time. But in most ways no (for the same reasons, wasting time and being brain dead aren’t really appealing options). I would therefore suggest people quit social media, for their own mental health and for our social health. Social media have corrupted social space in so many ways, leading us to the toxic situation we find ourselves in. Deciding to personally quit social media does not of course a social movement, or social change, make. But at least I don’t feel like an old man yelling at virtual clouds. Without social media the temptation to do that ceases to exist. That’s a relief in itself.

I can go outside and yell at real clouds...

best wishes

Simon Biggs
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> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 20:12:57 +0200
> From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl>
> To: nettime-l <nettime-l@lists.nettime.org>
> Subject: Re: <nettime> Sign the BAN X in EUROPE petition and join the
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> Dear all,
> 
> all your responses so far to the campaign to ban X in the EU, which only launched last Friday, have been exetremely interesting and encouraging. Finally there is a debate about what?s to be done with X.
> 
> I am not behind this initiative, the person who initiated it wants to remain anonymous (for the time being). This person has not got to do anything with ?Brussels? (neither are sponsered by the EU or any institution, for that matter). I see this campaign design first and foremost as a conceptual artwork in the poltical category. This very much comes from the nettime scene, let that be clear. And many of you will know why. It is a tactical media aka post-situationist/communication guerrilla action (with a very serious intention).
> 
> Unfortunately, a call to ban X in the EU will not come from the so-caled progressive-liberal ?civil society? organizations such as Bits of Freedom, Netzpolitik and all others of the European Digital Rights network (https://edri.org/about-us/our-network/) and campaign should be, first and foremost, read as a radical call to exactly these organizations to take a stand and follow the Brazilian example.
> 
> There is something bold and desperate in this call, and I believe there is a need to acknowledge that before we move on. The stagnation needs to end. Over a decade ago the social media monopolies were already causing havoc, both on the political and the mental health levels. At our Institute of Network Cultures we brought these initiatives together in 2011-2013 under the network name of 'Unlike Us' (https://networkcultures.org/unlikeus/), which, at the time, already felt a bit late (this was just after the failed Arab spring). This was launched together with Korinna Patelis, who was teaching in Cyprus at the time. A Facebook Farewell Party and similar initiatives followed but nothing happened. It all ended up in platform capitalism and then, even worse, techno-feudalism. Calls to fix the broken internet were made, some alternatives were developed, but none of this found much resonance amongst the userbase at large.
> 
> Europe has so failed to develop an alternative to the US ?free speech? contruct and thus all discussions, also inside the EU, are ultimately measured around that constitutional-legal term (or ideology, for that matter). All regulation effforts will remain to be framed  as censorship and thus all alternatives remain futile. At best Brussels can send fines to Silicon Valley? 5-10 years after the fact. No public money is invested in alternatives.
> 
> To say that calling for a ban is lame and will not work and that we have to emphasize alternatives instead has nothing achieved anything over the past decade. It is important to admit this. To merely say this again simply ignores the failure of the ?alternatives? approach. Fediverse-Mastedon etc. might work ok but still fails to attract many. In particular journalists and PR crowds continue to be hooked onto X, as are most of the political class. The dialectics between news media and the political class remains toxic (to use a very polite word). Cade Diehm has already said it so much better than I do here. Neither regulation nor alternatives have achieved much. It is urgent to come together and have an open dialogue what strategic next steps might make a real difference.
> 
> Yours, Geert
> 

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