David Herzog via nettime-l on Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:48:56 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> Sign the BAN X in EUROPE petition and join the campaign 

Patrice wrote:

+1 !  ;-)

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Patrice Riemens via nettime-l wrote:



+2 !

Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 05:18:22 +0100

P.S. Why does Geert's mail server block my mail?
protection rackets have considerable power. Geoff


oops:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2014OctDec/0903.html

By Chloë Arkenbout, March 28, 2024 at 11:19 am.
"I’m not an influencer or public figure. Nor do I have the aspiration or skills to be one." 

text:
https://networkcultures.org/tactical-media-room/2024/03/28/theory-fragments-of-the-shadowban-navigating-censorship-of-palestinian-content/

imag(ination):
https://networkcultures.org/tactical-media-room/wp-content/uploads/sites/69/2024/03/Schermafbeelding-2024-03-26-om-14.27.35.png


So nothing should block me;
I am not guilty because I run my own mailserver.


there are not a million but hundreds of reasons for a sad, no:


said: 550 5.7.1 Mail
rejected. (in reply to end of DATA command)


if you run your own smtp server you know that pretty well, mh?


So I would also like to thank Pit for proving that there is no founder mode.
Two different authors of netcritique (1-4), only at first glance have a different opinion on this topic.
The only thing we know beyond that is that Geert forwarded an invitation to sign a petition that he received from a person he doesn't know, but who may have been using tactical media for a long time, as Geert writes in his email. 

Perhaps it would be appropriate to at least recognise and remember this now.

so please, calm down, dah






----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Rabie via nettime-l" <[email protected]>
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Cc: "Joseph Rabie" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 10:07:30
Subject: Re: <nettime> Sign the BAN X in EUROPE petition and join the campaign

“We need to imagine and articulate sustainable political structures and social spaces…”

For how many years has Nettime been filled with passionate calls that begin with “We need to…” that are long on calls to action but (well) lacking in action?

So, how about applying imagination and creativity and doing something about it?

(Personally, I started a bioregional design cooperative -http://www.ambre-bioregion.fr/)  Has nothing to do with social media, however.)

Best wishes to all -
Joe



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Le 16 oct. 2024 à 09:35, Allan Siegel via nettime-l <[email protected]> a écrit :

Hello Nettime

Thanks Pit Schultz for your very relevant posting. To further move the discussion forward:

Focusing singularly on the problematic nature of one particular *social media* platform, whether X or any of the other obscene monopolies, skews the dimensions of a critical ongoing discourse. And, deters us from reconfiguring the dynamics of this critical political horizon.

The residual and reductive branding of these grotesquely commodified forms of communication as ‘social media’ conflates the inherent ideological models of media monopolies with more diverse media practices and evolving multi-dimensional social spaces: many of which are seeking to develop distinctive economic paradigms.

As Simon tells us, “Social media have corrupted social space in so many ways, leading us to the toxic situation we find ourselves in.” This corruption takes the form of of an insidious type of colonialism in which the extraction of all forms of data becomes an intrinsic building block of corporate wealth; as many other commentators have told us: branded ‘social media’ enables various processes of data extraction simultaneously engineering various individual and collective forms of exploitation.

Not surprisingly, human ingenuity and political necessity have subverted elements within this ‘social media’ landscape into ephemeral, but nevertheless, empowering social spaces that have enabled, globally, numerous political actions and progressive social activities.
But, while these ongoing subversions and hackings, as tactical interventions, provide visibility to political movements, social injustices, and also disseminate otherwise vast amounts of critical information, their enduring political impact remains negligible. Collectively we are using matches to melt a neoliberal iceberg. We need to imagine and articulate sustainable political structures and social spaces: a collectively reflective ideological landscape. An ideological landscape that addresses deteriorating societal and environmental  infrastructures and the injustices infecting people’s lives. This ideological landscape is by no means monolithic but rather a visionary and practical framework that inspires *tactical and strategic* political processes in which media enables and compliments organised political activities.

allan
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