komninos zervos on Thu, 28 May 1998 02:26:51 +0200 (MET DST) |
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Re: <nettime> Sentient Experiment #1.1 |
net-timers may be interested in this site i encourage you to take a look at gary zebington's site at http://www.merlin.com.au/eyespace/rep/ this site is doing something new. it is creating a poetry experience rather than a poem, where the author, the interactor and the poetic form(the website with its associated sampling software) provide bits of text to create a new text each time you visit the site. his website, gary and all visitors to the site create a new piece of writing each time. this is new because previously, whilst the author and reader influenced the text, the actual physical form of the book, the film, the poem, itself did not add anything to the text. i see us as trying to express old issues in the current language and metaphor using the new tool of the multimedia computer, and a new distribution system of the internet. people are now learning to access fiction and poetry in a different way on the internet. they are allowing themselves an involvement in a piece that has no beginning or end but which is more a continuum that they can exercise some control over. we are writing a new contract with multimedia/hypermedia literature, just as we had to develop a contract with the fiction novel, the play, the movie, television. we approach a book knowing there are a finite number of pages, that generally you begin at the beginning and work your way through numerically. we accept that it is a fiction and not a "real" story, and let ourselves be transported to whichever time or place the author creates. same with a movie, or a play, there are rules for how we watch that have developed over time. also mediated discussion lists and artwork like ted warnell's (http://members.tripod.com/~poembynari/critical.htm) incorporation of critiques, discourses back into the artpiece is challenging the role of critic in much the same way as barthes challenged the authority of author over a text in the early seventies. regards komninos >from: "David Reed" <[email protected]> >subject: Re: <nettime> Sentient Experiment #1.1 >date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:15:05 +0100 > >You might be interested to know, if you don't already but this experiment >was invented by Philip K Dick in a novel, a group of people played a game to >translate and retranslate phrases. The only bit I can remember is Ernest >Hemmingway became Serious Constrictingpath > > >More on your main bit: > >TS Eliot (and others) had it that poetry (and creative act will do) is not >creative, but rather a distillative action. We experience, and that >experience is transformed into creativity. I don't necessarily agree BUT it >does open a way for a creative machine. Let it live a little then tell of >its experiences. ********************************************************************** komninos's cyberpoetry site http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502 poetry jukebox http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502/jukebox.html cyberpoetry site:finalist:most creative/innovative website:atom awards:1997. honourable mention:.net category:prix ars electronica:austria:1997. ********************************************************************** --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected]