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Marko Peljhan -> STRIKES ON MILITARY TARGETS IN YUGOSLAVIA Lisa Haskel -> re: STRIKES ON MILITARY TARGETS IN YUGOSLAVIA Steven Clift -> Direct Reports from Kosovo/Sebria/Yugoslavia - E-mail to Web Geert Lovink -> ANEM radio now live on DDS2 Melentie Pandilovski -> development of situation in Macedonia Geert Lovink -> update all links! [email protected] -> from Belgrade - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:03:43 +0100 From: marko peljhan <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: STRIKES ON MILITARY TARGETS IN YUGOSLAVIA dear all, i just wanted to remind everybody, that we should think and try to help as well as we can our friends in yugoslavia, that from now on work under even more impossible conditions. also, we should not forget our friends in kosovo, macedonia and albania, who work under war or extreme pressure conditions already for a year and more. so, i suggest that the support and fund for b92 should be, also in name and title, extended to all the independents in kosovo and around it. i understand this is the initial idea (help b92 and other independent media in yugoslavia) but this should be made even clearer. koha, radio 21 and others, who we might not even know also need help and support. so, maybe call it ANEM FUND or INDEP-MEDIA FUND, but not just B92 FUND. i can pledge the full support of the local technical capabilities to everybody and hope that the founders of the fund will find the means and methods to help these media to operate under these extreme conditions and am offering once again the full cooperation of ljudmila, ljudmila_hw lab and pact. what is now needed is a clear message what is needed there, from there, but bear in mind, that the strikes struck and are aimed again and only against strategic and to a lesser extent tactical military installations. so maybe what is needed there are methods and means to safely transport information in and out of yugoslavia now. we are late with this and we should know it. just throwing money at the media will not help. a clearer strategy is needed, so an online debate would not be a bad idea. marko peljhan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "lisa haskel" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], marko peljhan <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:19:38 +0000 Subject: Re: Syndicate: STRIKES ON MILITARY TARGETS IN YUGOSLAVIA dear marko, dear all, Thanks for your posting and the important points that you raise. It is always the case that those who know how and whom to ask, and who are already known, will be the ones that get. Those who understand this should try to break the cycle, even though we also recognise that the needs of b92 are real and urgent. I also agree that we cannot assume we know what is required on the ground. What do you or others among us know already from the contacts you have? do you have suggestions? lisa > Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:03:43 +0100 > From: marko peljhan <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Syndicate: STRIKES ON MILITARY TARGETS IN YUGOSLAVIA [marko's above message snipped] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: "Steven Clift" <[email protected]> Organization: Democracies Online To: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:13:11 -0500 Subject: Direct Reports from Kosovo/Sebria/Yugoslavia - E-mail to Web Please forward as appropriate. Direct Reports from Kosovo A simple e-mail to web system has been established for those in the Kosovo region to post messages directly to the web for the world to see. Please help forward this message to individuals in Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia who might share their direct experience with the crisis. Those on the ground in the Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia are encouraged to send their posts for direct display on the web to: [email protected] All posts must be read on the web from: http://www.eGroups.com/list/kosovo-reports/ The full service description is available below. The links to related discussions or news sources are available from the web page. As of the launch (Mar 24) it is not known exactly how this service will be used. Steven Clift http://www.publicus.net Description: This is a special mechanism to post real life informational e-mail updates from the Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia region to the web for the world to see. All those involved are welcome to contribute their story from people on the ground to those in the skies. Third person accounts or news service stories are discouraged. There will be no attempt to determine the authenticity or the accuracy of posts submitted. This e-mail to web publishing mechanism is absolutely not designed for discussion. No e-mail subscription requests will be processed and all viewing must be done via the web interface. To submit a report from the Kosovo area (no material copyrighted by anyone other than yourself is allowed), send it directly to: [email protected] For newswire and media oriented sources instead of personal direct reports via e-mail check the following sources: EGroups - Kosovo, AlbaNews, a mixed set of sources to come ... Those interested in discussing the matter should visit either the CNN message board on the topic or the soc.culture.yugoslavia and soc.culture.albanian newsgroups on the web via Remarq. For access to news accounts visit the links from Yahoo Full Coverage or the BBC page on Kosovo. To view the reports on the web visit: http://www.e-groups.com/list/kosovo-reports This forum was created as an experiment by Steven Clift to determine the usefullness of such an e-mail to web mechanism in this sort of crisis situation. This e-group is hosted by eGroups.com. Bookmark this page as http://www.eGroups.com/list/kosovo-reports - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Steven Clift - E: [email protected] - ICQ: 13789183 T:+1.612.822.8667 W: http://www.publicus.net Web White & Blue Webby Award Nominee http://webwhiteblue.org - http://www.webbyawards.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:27:04 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Lovink <[email protected]> Subject: ANEM radio now live on DDS2 From: [email protected] As part of the action "help B92" The Digital City DDS now put ANEM radio (with programme's from B92) live in RealAudio on the internet: via 'DDS 2' http://live.dds.nl/2.ram (clicking this link automaticly starts RealAudio player) This signal is picked up in Amsterdam from 'Europe by Satellite' sound channel 12 (pid 312) (normally the swedish translations of the European commission meetings) On the Hotbird 3 satellite, 13 degrees east ANEM http://anem.opennet.org/ Europe by Satellite http://europa.eu.int/en/comm/dg10/infcom/ebsprgen.htm DDS LIVEWEB http://live.dds.nl De Digitale Stad http://www.dds.nl Thanks to sponsor Kramer Satellite Systems Amsterdam http://www.kramer.nu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:43:11 +0100 (MET) From: Melentie Pandilovski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Syndicate: development of situation in Macedonia Dear all, Large Anti-Nato demonstrations in Skopje! "NATO go home, Yankees go home" is exclaimed. First in front of the hotel Alexander Palace and now more than 10,000 people according to TV stations are infront of the American embassy from 18hrs. The demonstrators are throwing eggs and other harmless materials to the Embassy. However the reception of the embassy is burning due to hits from Molotov cocktails. Some American flags are being burnt and there are some cars burnt. More demonstrators are gathering and about to move to the center of the city. Let's hope things stay calm. Melentie - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:43:02 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Lovink <[email protected]> http://play.rbn.com/?b92 update all links!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:22:41 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Lovink <[email protected]> Subject: from Belgrade (fwd) From: [email protected] Subject: from Belgrade video of the bombing of airport Batajnica took from the roof of Dom omladine - building in which B92 is situated (Batajnica is 26km from Dom omladine and Dom omladine is in the middle of the town). we where up there and what was terrifying is long lasting white track of the bomb carrier we where looking at for 2 minutes - going from left to right at the clear sky. can be seen at http://www.b92.com.. -----End of forwarded message----- --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected]