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<nettime> Re: <.nettime> Genocide: what's in a word? (By Mick Hume) |
Ted (a nettime "moderator") says: << as i see it, is quite simple: the senile apparatuses of the Cold War are finally having a go at it, with horrendous results. if you find that to be completely unacceptable, as i do, then we need to find ways to dismember them >> Er, Ted, you might consider that we're in a completely new era and that what we're dealing with is hardly "senile" but surprisingly youthful and robust. This ain't the "Cold War" at all. This is far worse. This is the "good-guys" flexing their muscles and doing a very "bad" thing -- while trying to run the world. Simple? How about allowing some real historical analysis to get some air-time on nettime? Then, we'll see how simple it is. How about that long foretold total "trans-valuation of all values"? When what you thought was "good" suddenly becomes very "bad"? Can nettime handle it? This is the baby-boomer, technocratic, social-democrats running this very hot war. This is the Greens and the Socialists. This is New Labour. This is New Democrats. These are the people who protested against the war in Vietnam. They're dropping the bombs now. They're wrapping themselves in the cynical/fraudulent cloak of "human rights" and using transparent propaganda ploys like "genocide" to justify their aggression. This is no clash of political-economic systems. This is the "Hippie-Trilateraloids" (as arch-greenie Bruce Sterling once put it) building their own institutions of dominant WORLD GOVERNMENT. And, it's official. It was reported today in the NYTimes, that anyone who "faithfully served the United States" from Japan's surrender to Gorbachev resignation can apply for a "Cold War Recognition Certificate." This isn't the old Cold War version of NATO, this is a new, "friendlier", long-haired, rock-'n-roll, gender-neutral NATO. Rebuilt, re-tooled and, now, thanks to Kosovo, battle-tested. Exactly whom would you like to "dismember"? All the Labour/Green/Socialist parties in Western Europe (and don't forget their pals in Poland/Hungary/Czech) who re-approve this war day after day? The closest thing to true Cold-Warriors, the communists in Russia and the bullet-head "patriots" in the U.S. are very often *not* supporters of this conflict. Go figure! Someone should bring nettime up-to-date on world-events and at least try to ask WHY? this is all taking place. Ted, you might benefit from the discussion along with the rest of us. We deserve to know WHY? not just WHAT! Or, are we all too post-post-modern to even try to think any more? Best, Mark Stahlman --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected]