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<nettime> Beyond "Point of View" |
Folks: As much as I dislike discussing *me* in these forums, Felix Stadler's decision to post our exchange regarding "human rights" (with my permission) and Pit's recent comments (for whom I have much affection and respect) prompt me to try a brief clarification of my motives. My own task is to experiment with online forums to see if they can be used to move some of us beyond "point of view." Why? Because I believe that thinking tends to begin where "point of view" dissolves and that, in general, thinking is good for us all. So, if some of you agree with me and others disagree based on what may seem to be my own opinions, I'm not doing my job too well. Also, if it seems that I enjoy "pissing people off", then I'm also screwing up somehow. These reactions originate in trying to locate my "point of view." That is not my intent. As a "non-party intellectual" (like nettime's founders, in this regard), I have no real axe to grind. I also have nothing to defend as my own "sacred cow." Nothing is above (or below) questioning for me -- which is understandably upsetting to many. Is he a Trot? No. Is he a Catholic? No. Is he CIA? No. Is he an alien . . . Viewpoints are often a form of identity. Identity is strongly guarded. Challenging identity easily provokes violence. So, Pit is correct that I'm experienced and ready to take the brickbats thrown in my direction but, it seems to me, incorrect that I wish to see people so angry that they have to start throwing things around. All I want is to figure out how to improve our collective ability to think. Honest. That's my "project." Since I have no sacred cows, I read material from all sources and have discussions with all comers. I tend not to believe many of the "official" stories and find it useful to hunt around for the various stories-behind-the-stories. This openness leaves me open for the claim that I'm somehow a "conspiracy" type. I read that material too. But I find it generally boring, analytically handicapped and psychologically crippled. It's just not thinking, or so it seems to me. Instead, it's some very seriously warped "points of view." It doesn't ring my bell. What does? I get excited when people begin to sense that they don't really know very much. When the foundations of one's "point of view" begin to seem shaky, then there's an opportunity for some learning and some thinking to develop. Discovery begins somewhere on the other side of "ignorance", for most of us. This process of shaking up your foundations can be accessed pretty reliably through confronting what appear to be paradoxes. This Balkan war is so ripe with these paradoxes that it's drawn me back to posting to nettime. My hope is that at least a few well-rooted "points of view" may be shaken to the point of some openminded thinking in the process. What you thought you knew about "war and anti-war", "pacifism", "human-rights", "national-soveriegnty", "fascism", "democracy", "captialism", "socialism" and "world-government" should be seriously shaken by these events and the reflections on them coming through nettime and other forums. But, that's just a start. My hope is that new institutions can be built on the Internet which will encourage thinking. My old friend Doug Rushkoff has publically dispaired a little over this. My old sparring-partner JP Barlow has asked Doug to not "lose the faith." I suspect that Barlow isn't looking for more thinking, as I am, but he'll have to clarify. That's all I'm doing. Looking to stimulate all the thinking we can collectively generate. Yes, I thought it was weird when my "human rights" post was blocked. Whether this happened because I came too close to someone's "sacred cow", I really don't know. Felix was very generous to work it through with me and then to publish the exchange. It feels to me like nettime is handling all this pretty well, under the circumstances. I encourage all people who wish to think -- by which I mean move beyond "point of view -- to stay engaged to the limits of their endurance. And, I invite any of you who wish to explore online structures which encourage thinking to send me some private email. Thinks to all, Mark Stahlman --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected]