| valery grancher on Fri, 21 May 1999 22:33:49 +0200 (CEST) |
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| <nettime> Re: granchergram 052199 [digest]: dominique, kosick |
What do we call "gains" ? When you are getting back tens and tens insult, flame, critics, difamation !!!!! When you loose your own money to defend your opinion and your position ? In this case its was the reality I got back from my opinion and works ... And I don't change any way my way !!!!! all my best, Valery Grancher [email protected] http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory nettime's_digestive_system wrote: > [email protected] > VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > Terrence J Kosick <[email protected]> > Re: RHIZOME_RAW: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri May 21 02:04:46 EDT 1999 > Subject: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > > [both orig messages also to/cc rhizome] > > VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > > Art fields are always in a stage of metamorphosis, changing from the darling > seedlings of "free form" creativity, where rough edges are neccesary towards > creating the definition of its spirit. There soon comes the marginal > institutionalization; the introduction of museums, money making models and > whatnot, met early on with the resistance of the underground scene which > created it- yet, the older its participants become, and the less romantic "free > art" becomes, the more likely that the further institutionalizations will gain > way over the seedling and allow it to come to full academically discussed > bloom. > > The only value free art has is in the romanticism of its early formative years. > Yet new media and web based art is by definition free, available to all, and > repellant to its neccesary institutionalization. No art seedling can thrive > without the sunlight of cash flow...all that remains without it is an > underground network of nebulous potential, and all else is simply romantic > posturing. > > It is rare then to encounter a master craftsman who remains as rebellious in > spirit while participating in the academic blossom of his or her craft. While > constructing a thesis on internet art I encountered the stunning work of Valery > Grancher... > > http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/ Is the location of a truly revolutionary > artist at work. Who else would protest NATO bombings in the wake of such a > public outcry of support for the bombing campaign which has cost thousands > their homes and lives? > > Valery also explores the true interactive nature of the web by urging the > non-educated to take part and to be showcased. Events with the Candy Factory in > Japan create a rare opportunity for individuals whom would otherwise not > consider themselves to be "creative" to interact with the work on the WWW. > > Valery is a master of subtlety and perseverance. His bold statements oftentimes > incur bold reactions. This is the supreme goal of any "artist:" the reaction!. > Yet the number of attacks on Valery do not sway him. There is not even a hint > of re-evaluation despite the barrage of data, facts, figures and "realities" > which are thrown in his direction. This perseverance is admirable in a society > based on constant re-evaluation and analysis of ideologies. This weakness is > not Granchers. > > For instance, his recent "black page" project for Yugoslavian War Victims (and, > in fact, "All War Victims In General") was such a shocking statement- who would > dedicate art to the War Victims? With the abundance of pro-NATO work on the > world wide web, coupled with strong anti-war victim sentiment, such a statement > could be determined to be a simple shock technique. Yet the subtlety with which > Grancher handled the piece was evident of a true master. In numerous emails, > which he was bold enough to send from his own address and sign his own name to, > he declared the "Anonymous Black Screen" Project, which revolutionized both > anti-war movements and the definitions of anonymity on the internet. You can > still view this Black page online: http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/ > > The work is subtle, yet the actual purpose of the page does not underscore its > usefulness: Highlight the page and you will see that it is still a functional > index. Many others would perhaps limit the page to true black, yet Valery > allows the user to percieve the message even stronger by allowing access to his > other works of the same calibre. > > One wonders if such a revolutionary artist - see the use of animated .gifs on > his index page for an example- ( http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/index2.htm ) > would be accepted by mainstream art houses even after these shocking and > innovative departures from the common day drudgery of internet art, which is > seemingly content with simple movement and progression. > > Valery is an artist who refuses to speak anything but his mind, as loudly as he > can. Strong anti-Grancher sentiment lies in the wake of his work for his entire > life; as it does for every truly revolutionary artist. > > __excess_data___________________ > To access this amazing work: > http://www.imaginet.fr/nomemory/ > > Various Prose and Viewpoints: > http://www.7-11.org > > Get HushMail. The world's first free, fully encrypted, web-based email system. > Speak freely with HushMail.... http://www.hushmail.com > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:50:42 +0000 > From: Terrence J Kosick <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > > Terrence writes; > > More propaganda ideas for the carreer minded web artists making gains on the > war. > > [email protected] wrote: > > > VALERY GRANCHER: NET.ARTS FIRST REBEL. > > [~66 lines of orig mail (above) deleted--tb] > > > + > > + > > + > > -> RHIZOME COMMUNICATIONS > > -> post: [email protected] > > -> questions: [email protected] > > -> answers: http://www.rhizome.org > > -> unsubscribe: http://www.rhizome.org/unsubscribe/ > > + > > + > > + > > posts to RHIZOME RAW are subject to the terms > > set out in the Subscriber Agreement available online at > > <http://www.rhizome.org/subscribe/>. > > --- > # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected] --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: [email protected]