Simon Bayly on Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:28:29 +0100 (CET) |
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<nettime> RE: What is this thing that I call Doug? |
re: the Doug Rushkoff interview posted to nettime. I don't know this man's work at all, but found his comments about the self, intentionality and identity most bizarre - kind of like someone approaching this area of philosophy with an almost wilful ignorance of...hmmm... pretty much all philosophy on the subject since Kant! > what is the thing that I call Doug? > The "what" is the problem here for me. Why is it not "who"? If it was "who" then "thing" would obviously not do either (who is the thing=?)... and then the sense unravels. How can a "thing" have pure intention (see below)? I don't care for semantic pedantry in general, but in this instance it appears the appropriate lever. snip> > And that pretty well gets us down to the very biggest questions people in > this discussion and discussions like it for centuries have been asking. What > is life? What is consciousness? > OK, wade in there! > And I'd answer it's pure intention - and > that studying media helps us distinguish between intentionality and its many > manifestations. > Saying that consciousness (subjectivity, selfhood, whatever) is pure intention is pretty much an untenable position from any current philosophical point of view and would be seen by many as at best devoid of any meaning, and at worst as ethically and politically "dangerous". snip> > And it occurred to me that everything is media. > Everything outside my own awareness - whatever it is I call "me" - is some > mediation of me. That is, until it gets to you. Everything between the thing > that I'm calling Doug and the thing that you're calling John is media. > This is hard to credit at all. Rushkoff's "media" as the means of exchange between you and me sets up a world of subjects who are objects for each other, going around sending messages, which are received or not received, or get corrupted along the way. Presumably, the ideal here would be a maximal efficiency of communication eliminating any "noise" that might generate "confusion" about the message - "This message delivered direct from my mind to yours!" (TM). No-one believes this models actuality. Do they? This is a person, a self, conceived entirely as thing, as machine, a data-processing device. Do you know any actual humans who fit this description? See Alphonso Lingis' "The Community of Those Who Have Nothing in Common" or "The Imperative" for a more up-to-date and informed take on subjectivity and communication. See Kant, see Heidegger, see Spinoza, see most artists, see anyone really...... > Do I want to use a > coercive sales technique that I learned watching the Gap's instructional > videos? I'll win a bonus or a T-shirt if I can make this person buy a belt > along with his jeans, and I'll get in trouble if I don't make enough 3-item > sales... but I can tell he doesn't have that much money. We all experience > these moments of doubt, these moments of hesitation when our true > sensibility emerges. > OK, now something important seeps in by accident. Rushkoff's notional Gap worker faces Kant's categorical imperative! S/he finds that "What I have to do" (acknowledge the other in his/her "otherness" outside of any economy) is imposed independently of my wants and desires (in this case, to make the sale, be a good employee, make enough money for myself, cater to my self-interest and survival). This is the basis of ethics, no? Kant (and pretty much all major philosophy Western or Eastern) indicates that the categorical imperative (or something like it) is the ground for any notion of selfhood (or in his hardcore version, any idea of anything at all). The mind primordially "knows" or rather, feels the force of, the imperative and THEN sets out to formulate data into representations of a law-regulated nature, etc. In this light, something like "pure intention", with which Rushkoff seems to mean also the realm of pure reflection and cogitation as opposed to "instinct" or "spontenaity", is a philosphical abstraction that has no meaningful relation to the phenomena (human behaviour and thinking). What's my real point here? Essentially, that the "cutting edge" of techno-discourse about redefined notions of subjectivity, identity, the body, community, etc. is blunted by its often naive and uninformed misappropriation of ideas that have actually been worked out/on to some degree of sophistication in good 'ole traditional academic discourses (that are de facto suspect from point-of-view of "the counterculture", because they existed before the Internet or computers and therefore are not worth wasting time getting familiar with). Rushkoff evidences this with his tales of how wierded out he was when he found his righteous techno-radicalism got chewed up and digested good and proper by corporate USA. His subsequent realignment appears almost banal in its " pure intention", let alone its intelllectual rigour. My, perhaps optimistic belief, is that we should demand more, much more from our Professors of Media Culture in Interactive Telecommunications Programs, wherever they may be. Simon Bayly London, UK. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [email protected] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected]