<nettime> RE: rdom for sale

[Jean-Philippe HALGAND <jean-philippe.halgand@aecom.org>]

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De:	sebastian.luetgert [SMTP:sebastian@rolux.org]


the only value of www.thing.net/~rdom was its user value. the idea to take
it offline and sell it on a cd is totally bizarre. this auction is a very
strong statement not only on the actual power structures of the net, but
also on the privatization of public affairs and on the vanishing of
political activism into the art world. 



Hi Sebastian

I quite agree with your statement here and below. The privatisation of
what we can call a "public domain in progress", a digital "heritage
(altough this term is quite naive) is something thazt artists will have to
deal with more and more often.  Leonardo, etoy,etc will have followers.
Unfortunately.  Sure it is a question of practices. 

Same thing could be said of the open source (a question such as "do artists 
really want of open source ?" could be the first step for a debate) and of 
economic alienation when bringing the question of artistic presence and 
activity on the Net.

We had such things in mind when we launched the "Save the GNou - The 
Copyright The Copyleft World > Campaign" at pavu.com. Except that time 
proximity with etoy and leonardo affairs had not been programmed.

Abstract :

> "It's a secret for no one : the Open de Source is drying up.
> Today, GNou is in process of extinction. It is however not fault 
> of having created that and there of the reserves to protect the 
> species. But each day sees coming up of new threats: attempts at
> expropriation, of political and commercial recovery, the list is long...

Continued on : http://www.pavu.com/pavuCS/copyGNou/indexus.html

> copyright LE GNou!!
	- a day without GNou is a day without dreams -

for pavu.com :
Jean-Philippe Halgand - pavu EXECUTIVE
http://pavu.com
-/ welcome to a plining world /-


the etoy/etoys conflict is NOT AT ALL a domain name conflict. trademark
holders will get their names dot com, they will get anything that
resembles them, they will get them in other languages and they will even
get them retroactively. but so what? there's still enough space, even in
the dot com domain, if you don't stick to the dictionary. known trademarks
can be reversed, xxxxx-whatever.com should still be available, just
campaign for and agree on a prefix and start registering. your visitors
will follow. or wait for new TLDs and see the whole story repeating again
and again. 

the etoy/etoys conflict is a conflict between PRACTICES of the net. if it
was business vs. business, noone would have cared so much. but it's
business vs.  something different, and the actiual question is if the web
of 99 is still a location for applications that are different from
e-commerce. location is not domain space, that's just the current
ideology. location is ideas, concepts context. location is setting up web
pages that produce something else than a consumer community, that create
something else than hits and money, that are fueled by something else than
just the joys of marketing. fighting for web locations is definitely not
fighting for domain names that fit on a tv screen. 

auction.thing.net:

> Please note: All transactions are handled by eBay.com. You need an eBay
> account to participate.

really, i don't get it.



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