| Guusbert van der Tak on Tue, 14 May 2002 00:18:02 +0200 (CEST) |
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Beste Marius van Dam, Ga jij maar fijn een zwarte lijst bijhouden terwijl ze in het buitenland wel de ontwikkelingen rondom pim fortuyn begrijpen. Gelukkig maar overigens, want het zou niet veel goeds doen voor de pr van nederland als zoveel mensen uitlopen voor een "extreem rechtse politicus", the Dutch Devil. regards, Felicia Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:11:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [Nettime-nl] Re: Beste schrijvers... From: Marius van Dam <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> on 12/5/02 01:02, ReindeR Rustema at [email protected] wrote= : >Ik kreeg trouwens nota bene uit Frankrijk een tekst toegestuurd van >Adam Curry (ze kennen hem daar niet) die zich kwaad heeft gemaakt >over het feit dat onze Pim onterecht overal in het buitenland als >extreem-rechts werd neergezet. Beetje warrig geschreven overigens, >maar het staat op http://davenet.userland.com/ onder 'The Big Lie' >van 9 mei. Curry keert zich steeds meer af van televisie, dat is nu >wel duidelijk. Ik stuitte enkele dagen geleden ook al op dit monster van een 'artikel'. Misschien interessant te melden dat curry hierin aangeeft dat hij zich eventueel aan wil sluiten bij LPF om zo zijn ICT kennis beschikbaar te stellen. Toen Nederland nog een land was van gematigde politiek, niet zo lang geleden, was het niet van iedereen duidelijk waar hij stond. Nu kan ik steeds meer BN-ers op mijn zwarte lijst zetten. (figuurlijk dan h=E8!) Dat geld trouwens ook in het dagelijks leven. From�:� "Guusbert van der Tak" <[email protected]> � Reply-To�:� [email protected] � To�:� [email protected] � Subject�:� Re: [media-culture] Pim Fortuin � Date�:� Wed, 08 May 2002 22:34:04 +0000 � �Reply �Reply�All �Forward ���Delete �Printer Friendly Version � >From: john O'Hare <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [media-culture] Pim Fortuin >Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:47:25 +1000 > >�� In a humane society, any Human being assassinated for their >political views will obviously be martyred. > >I'd rather align myself with this view, than a politic that wishes >people dead just because they don't agree with me! > >No of course the Dutch people are not all right wing, they are being >compassionate & civilized in their response to an act of injustice >within their society! > >John O'Hare > > > >The living Dutch devil has died a national hero. > > > >Should one assume that the Dutch are all extreme right-wing -or that the > >media got his image seriously wrong? > > > >trevor > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >-- >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >John O'Hare >Head of Acting and Technical Production >Creative Industries Acting >Ph: 07-3864-3221, fax: 3864-5782 >Mob: 0419 494 371 > >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* It's unbelieveble that in foreign countries media keep saying Pim Fortuyn was extreme right wing.� I really wonder where they get this information ! I strongle advise them to first� read his books, check out what he stands for and the relation to politcs in the Netherlands. Only then they will see through the false barrier of associations and information, things that are been said about Pim Fortuyn. It's very tragic that everyone keeps calling him extreme right wing, and keeps comparing him to le Pen and Haider. I thing it's a bit stupid and easy to do, because i know they haven't read any of his books (+ know enough about the social and political situation in Holland to place things in the right context) Pim fortuyn certainly doesnt deserve this, to be called a Dutch Devil. I do hope this opinion will be straightened out and corrected someday. Felicia (Holland) Dear Felicia, Guusbert van der Tak wrote: >Pim fortuyn certainly doesnt >deserve this, to be called a Dutch Devil. I do hope this opinion will be >straightened out and corrected someday. I believe that if you read my messages properly then you should realize that my reference to a "Dutch devil" was ironic -and that basically I agree with you. It is indeed a very complex (and interesting) situation. After almost 30 years of living here -I have to admit that I dislike Holland intensly. Probably for reasons which are very close to the things which have made Fortuin so popular -an interesting paradox! If things so continue -then I might even get to like it here again. Best wishes, trevor _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ______________________________________________________ * Verspreid via nettime-nl. Commercieel gebruik niet * toegestaan zonder toestemming. <nettime-nl> is een * open en ongemodereerde mailinglist over net-kritiek. * Meer info, archief & anderstalige edities: * http://www.nettime.org/. * Contact: Menno Grootveld ([email protected]).