paulv on Tue, 14 May 2002 11:10:01 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: [Nettime-nl] het buitenlands begrip van fortuyn |
yoyo enzo skrew: > ik heb m'n twijfels > over het idee dat men het verschijnsel fortuyn > in het buitenland wel helemaal kan volgen > zie het volgende artikel uit een engelse krant > (waarvan de auteur even is kwijtgeraakt, mijn excuus) > > yoyo > > The media also seems to have fallen for the modern racists� trick, as the main evidence of those suggesting that his party wasn�t racist is that he said it wasn�t racist. Maybe this should apply to other areas of reporting. "Our investigations prove that the man convicted of murder can�t have carried out the crime, because we asked him �are you a murderer?� and he went out of his way to say �No�." > > But Pim Fortuyn did try to build a movement around the demand to halt immigration, particularly against Muslims, whose religion he regularly described as sick and backward. In some areas, he complained, Dutch people "no longer hear their own language." When did the Dutch start complaining about this? The whole point of being Dutch is to speak 40 languages. Everything in Amsterdam is in English or German, so why didn�t he complain about that? It seems there were only certain foreign languages he objected to, connected to the race of the people speaking them. > > It�s true that Le Pen didn�t like Fortuyn, but then Mussolini didn�t like Hitler. And one clue as to whether Fortuyn�s appeal revolved around racism was the chant of crowds of his supporters after his death � "Pim was our Hitler." Now why would they have yelled that? Was it a) because they were attracted to his racism which, they felt, was as strident as that of Hitler. Or b) because they have been misinformed and believe Hitler to have been a gay sociologist? > Ik vindt dat hij hier toch prima de kern van de zaak te pakken heeft.. Pim Fortuyn's afkeer van de islam was duidelijk persoonlijk, en gericht op een hele bevolkingsgroup. Dat PF ook populistisch was doet niks af aan het feit dat ie wel degelijk rasistisch was. Of is kritiek op 'onze Pimmetje' tegenwoordig niet meer done, nu hij de status van politieke martelaar heeft gekregen dankzij zijn 'offer' voor de democratie? =paulv -- If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet you could shoot beer out of you nose. ______________________________________________________ * Verspreid via nettime-nl. Commercieel gebruik niet * toegestaan zonder toestemming. <nettime-nl> is een * open en ongemodereerde mailinglist over net-kritiek. * Meer info, archief & anderstalige edities: * http://www.nettime.org/. * Contact: Menno Grootveld ([email protected]).