| Marleen on Wed, 1 Jul 2015 16:25:00 +0200 (CEST) |
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Hoi Patrice, Vanaf 3 euro kun je deelnemen aan de crowdfunded Greek bailout Fund. Al 800 duizend euro opgehaald door 50 duizend mensen. Nog slechts 1.599.200.000 euro te gaan. In 6 dagen :) Voor 25 euro krijg je een fles Retsina erbij. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund#/ www.waag.org > Op 30 jun. 2015 om 18:45 heeft "Patrice Riemens" <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven: > > > fwded as per request > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: [Nictoglobe] From our Greece correspondent > From: "Andreas Jacobs" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, June 30, 2015 13:00 > To: "nettime-nl" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Patrice Riemens" <[email protected]> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Hi > > maybe of interest to some on this list.... > > Athens/Amsterdam June 29 2015 > Santiago Sierra - The Hellenic peninsula devoured by pigs, Video (2012) > by Arelis Eleftherios > > > > --Videostill from The Hellenic Peninsula Devoured By Pigs > Athens/Amsterdam June 29 2015 Pigs eating peninsulas of food shaped like > Greece, Portugal, Spain or Italy. > P.I.G.S as we know from the - northern - European press are the countries > of the mediterranean member states of the European Union (EU): Portugal, > Italy, Greece and Spain. Sierra changes the term showing pigs as symbol of > prosperity, filth [ see the scandal of Siemens, Germany in Greece ] and > greediness from the rich ex-colonial powers of greater Europe and their > financial violence. > > ..... > > zie: > > http://nictoglobe.com > > see below for Arelis personal remarks on the current situation in Greece: > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: eleftherios arelis <[email protected]> > Date: 25 juni 2015 13:11:17 CEST > To: Andreas Jacobs <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: santiago sierra 2 > > i dont have a problem on that..... imf and comission have reduced the > last 5 years > the value of euro in greece at least 7 times with a variation of taxies.... > we pay taxies for municipalities 60 euro per 2 months in the bill of > electricity... > they wanted enfia [350 euros per year for a house]as an income for > municipalities i mean the ex government of samaras and imf but we pay > indeed taxies for our houses...the new liberal marietta yiannakou > koutsikou supports this idea to pay a double taxies for the houses > that we stay with the blessing of imf and comission...imf,central > european bank and comission are telling lies to their nations that > they do not demand austerity measures from the greek government.they > want to caught ekas that it is being estimated from 30 until 240 euros > approximatelly for pensioners of 300 euro or 400 > euro....they want to increase fpa in electricity 10% and a greek > famigle with 4 members to pay 700 euros per 2 months only for > electricity...they want the privatization of eydap and to pay not 100 > euros but 200 euros or 300... > they disagreed with the suggestion of tsipras for the 29% taxies of the > profits > of huge companies due to their colonial new liberal spirit that > dominates their mind and their body and spirit....they asked only 28% > for the profits of huge companies > protecting the foreighner and greek capitalists....they are telling > lies to their citizens and this must have an ending now...donald tusk > spoken for that this bad joke must end by the greek > government...donald tusk shall ask from christine lagarde to stop > jokings,terrorism and bullying against greek nation...now...before it > is too late for all of us... > tsipras made his realistic proposals with a huge cost but they want to > humiliate syriza as the previous governments because they are afraid > other political movements such as podemos in spain or lepen on > france...a new sacred alliance[1815] was born in europe that wants to > strangulate national or leftists movements and they use greece as an > example of destruction...they ask irrational measures and if germany > likes so much imf then it must proceed on new programmes with > austerity measures made by imf.on the german nation to see that imf is > a nightmare with out ending.. > imf is like nazis who occupied greece in the 40s...they destroy > countries and they dont rebuild them...the debt of greece is > extremelly huge 320 billion euros and the funds ask now 11 billion > euros with measures...and they have the nerve to call themselfs as > flexibles...if they were not flexibles they would have asked from > greece to pay and the 320 billions in 1 year....matteo renzi has right > when he says that some dark cycles wishes the exit from eurozone...we > can not pay this debt... > it is impossible under these circumstances...greece will default with > certainty after these measures if they become realite...they gain only > time the european leaders... > only time nothing else...they want to increase fpa to 23% in the food > and energy... > that means that greeks will loose again 10% of their national > income...only from that measure...from electricity greeks will loose > another 10% of their income...from caughting pensions and salaries > another 10 and so goes on...imf doesnt stop its irrational demands > from the greek nation...what they are proposing is default with other > words...and some greeks are hypnotized by new democracy, pasok and the > potami who serve imf with a very good way and they say if we go to > drachma we will loose the 80% of our income...in the last 5 years i > ask from these corrupted parties how many times the income inside > eurozone had reduced;;;800%...the money of greeks is being transferred > to the central european bank and imf and some persons are getting > richer taking advantage off the situation.. > > all the best from greece > > arelis . > > 2015-06-22 21:20 GMT+03:00, Andreas Jacobs <[email protected]>: > hi Arelis > > is it ok to share your post to nettime.nl? > > Andreas > > Sent from my eXtended BodY > > On 22 jun. 2015, at 13:02, eleftherios arelis <[email protected]> wrote: > > dear andreas > > for the consequences i dont know...but when the imf, the central european > bank > and comission refer to the reforms they mean more austerity measures.... > more unemployed people...par example in the educational system this > year they will not hire noone...many teachers are unemployed as you > can understand > > more expensive products...with euro we had reduced the value of bying > and cell many times the last 15 years....it is like we have drachmas > but to reduce the power of drachma each year 30%....this policy is > destruction > we pay taxies for the unemployed 30% taxies for the rents 10% taxies > for the house that we live...taxies for the income of course and they > ask more and more taxies > having as a result the people to take money from their accounts to pay > taxies > that have a direction to pay imf .and greeks become poorer and poorer each > day > and the general feeling is that our money go to the germany and imf.to > pay the loans that greece ows to imf, european countries and general > central european bank of draggi. > this situation has not an ending because the measures do not resolve > the problem > > > > par example electricity for 4 people it is 400 euros per 2 months with > 23% fpa that they ask we will pay 100 euros more > per 2 months....they want to make private the industry of water and to > pay more money for this privatization....they want also to cut even > and the smallest > pensions and salaries that are 300 euros per month... > in the end all they will work freely as you can understand with out > any salary or pension in the future because the unemployed are 30% of > population or even more. > > greece needs investements package not loans with out ending as the 3 > foundations ask from greece > tsipras tries to make them to understand this but they dont.... > they insist on the wrong medecine for greek economy and things are > getting worse and worse > > any questions on these topics;;; > > arelis > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > * Verspreid via nettime-nl. 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