SaB* on Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:34:03 +0100 (CET)


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Re: [rohrpost] shock and awe/ b - o - y - k - o - t - t (fwd)




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From: SaB* <[email protected]>
To: Oliver Grau <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [rohrpost] shock and awe/  b - o - y - k - o - t - t

ach, olilein, wer blubbert denn hier?
das geblubber mit dem v�lkerrecht ... tsss. w�re der krieg dann besser?
sch�ner? schneller? gerechter? also, verarschen kann ich mich selbst. als
konstruktiven vorschlag m�chte ich die sofortige abschaltung deines
kriegsrechners anmahnen.

spammige gr��e,
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SaB*

On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Oliver Grau wrote:

> Es waere schoen, wenn konstruktiv diskutiert werden koennte und nicht solch
> Geblubber von Leuten ohne Namen gespammt wird...
>
> Ein guter Vorschlag, der bereits praktiziert wird, lautet, dass
> boykottierte  US Hersteller oeffentlich erklaeren, dass sie gegen die
> Verletzung des Voelkerrechts sind, worauf die Geschaeftsbeziehungen dann
> wieder aufgenommen werden (vgl.
> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,241645,00.html).
> Dies gilt natuerlich auch fuer die Computerindustrie. Offensichtlich
> scheinen bei nodesire <[email protected]> (kann seinen Namen ebenfalls nicht
> schreiben) die Bemuehungen der open source Bewegung nicht angekommen zu
> sein. Wie auch immer: Wir werden nicht umhinkommen, Ueberlegungen
> anzustellen, wie das Voelkerrecht geschuetzt werden kann, da helfen keine
> Zynismen.
>
> uebrigens..
> meine Frau ist Amerikanerin, wie koennte ich da nationalistisch sein.. ;-)
> best
> oliver
>
>
>
> At 17:49 22.03.03 +0100, you wrote:
> >wenn du schon und wieder so viel nachdenkst �ber boykott und anderes
> >(eventuell noch ein embargo?), dann versuch doch mal vom nationalistischen
> >(boykotiert amerika) zum herstellerorientierten (boykotiert die
> >kriegsindustrie und krieggewinnler und kriegsunterst�tzer) denken zu
> >wechseln. dann gewinnt dein unterfangen an sch�rfe.
> >lg,
> >--
> >SaB*
> >
> >On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Oliver Grau wrote:
> >
> >> Vielleicht waere ein Boykott amerikanischer Produkte doch noch einmal
> >> ernsthaft zu ueberlegen. Ich moechte meine zunaechst ablehnende Haltung
> >> zuruecknehmen, die nur von einer bundesrepublikanischen Perspektive
> >> ausging. Da mittlerweile jedoch weltweit Boykottueberlegungen diskutiert
> >> und begonnen werden (von Esso bis zur Filmindustrie), sollten wir uns
> >> anschliessen. Die alte Gandhi Idee koennte, wenn sie nun erstmals ueber das
> >> Netz effektiv organisiert und weltweit praktiziert wird, vielleicht doch
> >> Wirkung zeigen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  At 17:11 22.03.03 +0100, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >das buch zum angriff:
> >> >"Shock & Awe. Achieving Rapid Dominance." 1996.
> >> >http://www.dodccrp.org/shockIndex.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >kleine kostprobe:
> >> >
> >> >"It is, of course, clear that U.S. military forces are currently the
> >> >most capable in the world and are likely to remain so for a long time
> >> >to come. Why then, many will ask, should we examine and even propose
> >> >major excursions and changes if the country occupies this position of
> >> >military superiority? For reasons noted in this study, we believe
> >> >that excursions are important if only to confirm the validity of
> >> >current defense approaches. There are several overrarching realities
> >> >that have led us to this conclusion. First, while everyone recognizes
> >> >that the Cold War has ended, there is not a consensus about what this
> >> >means for more precisely defining the nature of our future security
> >> >needs. Despite this absence of both clairvoyance and a galvanizing
> >> >external danger, the United States is actively examining new
> >> >strategic options and choices. The variety of conceptual efforts
> >> >underway in the Pentagon to deal with this uncertainty exemplifies
> >> >this reality. (...)
> >> >
> >> >The aim of Rapid Dominance is to affect the will, perception, and
> >> >understanding of the adversary to fit or respond to our strategic
> >> >policy ends through imposing a regime of Shock and Awe. Clearly, the
> >> >traditional military aim of destroying, defeating, or neutralizing
> >> >the adversary's military capability is a fundamental and necessary
> >> >component of Rapid Dominance. Our intent, however, is to field a
> >> >range of capabilities to induce sufficient Shock and Awe to render
> >> >the adversary impotent. This means that physical and psychological
> >> >effects must be obtained.
> >> >
> >> >Rapid Dominance would therefore provide the ability to control, on an
> >> >immediate basis, the entire region of operational interest and the
> >> >environment, broadly defined, in and around that area of interest.
> >> >Beyond achieving decisive force and dominant battlefield awareness,
> >> >we envisage Rapid Dominance producing a capability that can more
> >> >effectively and efficiently achieve the stated political or military
> >> >objectives underwriting the use of force by rendering the adversary
> >> >completely impotent.
> >> >
> >> >In Rapid Dominance, "rapid" means the ability to move quickly before
> >> >an adversary can react. This notion of rapidity applies throughout
> >> >the spectrum of combat from pre-conflict deployment to all stages of
> >> >battle and conflict resolution.
> >> >
> >> >"Dominance" means the ability to affect and dominate an adversary's
> >> >will both physically and psychologically. Physical dominance includes
> >> >the ability to destroy, disarm, disrupt, neutralize, and to render
> >> >impotent. Psychological dominance means the ability to destroy,
> >> >defeat, and neuter the will of an adversary to resist; or convince
> >> >the adversary to accept our terms and aims short of using force. The
> >> >target is the adversary's will, perception, and understanding. The
> >> >principal mechanism for achieving this dominance is through imposing
> >> >sufficient conditions of "Shock and Awe" on the adversary to convince
> >> >or compel it to accept our strategic aims and military objectives.
> >> >Clearly, deception, confusion, misinformation, and disinformation,
> >> >perhaps in massive amounts, must be employed.
> >> >
> >> >(...)
> >> >Theoretically, the magnitude of Shock and Awe Rapid Dominance seeks
> >> >to impose (in extreme cases) is the non-nuclear equivalent of the
> >> >impact that the atomic weapons dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki had
> >> >on the Japanese. The Japanese were prepared for suicidal resistance
> >> >until both nuclear bombs were used. The impact of those weapons was
> >> >sufficient to transform both the mindset of the average Japanese
> >> >citizen and the outlook of the leadership through this condition of
> >> >Shock and Awe. The Japanese simply could not comprehend the
> >> >destructive power carried by a single airplane. This incomprehension
> >> >produced a state of awe.
> >> >
> >> >(...)
> >> >The goals of achieving Rapid Dominance using Shock and Awe must be
> >> >compared with overwhelming force. "Rapid" implies the ability to
> >> >"own" the dimension of time-moving more quickly than an opponent,
> >> >operating within his decision cycle, and resolving conflict favorably
> >> >in a short period of time. "Dominance" means the ability to control a
> >> >situation totally.
> >> >
> >> >(...)
> >> >Rapid Dominance must be all-encompassing. It will require the means
> >> >to anticipate and to counter all opposing moves. It will involve the
> >> >capability to deny an opponent things of critical value, and to
> >> >convey the unmistakable message that unconditional compliance is the
> >> >only available recourse. It will imply more than the direct
> >> >application of force. It will mean the ability to control the
> >> >environment and to master all levels of an opponent's activities to
> >> >affect will, perception, and understanding. This could include means
> >> >of communication, transportation, food production, water supply, and
> >> >other aspects of infrastructure as well as the denial of military
> >> >responses. Deception, misinformation, and disinformation are key
> >> >components in this assault on the will and understanding of the
> >> >opponent.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >(...)
> >> >Finally, we argue that what is also new in this approach is the way
> >> >in which we attempt to integrate far more broadly strategy,
> >> >technology, and innovation to achieve Shock and Awe. It is this
> >> >interaction and focus which we think will provide the most
> >> >interesting results."
> >> >usw. usw.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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