<nettime> Re: Stallman: Thousands dead, millions deprived [sewell, cramer]

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Re: Richard Stallman: Thousands dead, millions deprived of civil liberties?
     Richard Sewell <richard@jarkman.co.uk>
     Florian Cramer <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:25:16 +0100
From: Richard Sewell <richard@jarkman.co.uk>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Richard Stallman: Thousands dead, millions deprived 
     of civil liberties?

At 08:51 18/09/01 -0700, Steve Cisler wrote:
>I would be interested to hear opinions from nettimers who are not
>Americans about how they perceive our level of security was up until
>September 11. When you were in the states did you feel things were
>lax, oppressive, or about the same as your home country?

 From the point of view of a UK resident, it seems about the same. I can 
carry a penknife on a plane, my passport gets scrutinised when I arrive, 
and so on.

But I'm not sure that security is really the issue here, in that this 
attack was carried out in a way which tighter security would have great 
trouble preventing. The physical ingredients - trained pilots, sharp 
objects - are not so rare or so inherently warlike as to be controllable.
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Richard Sewell
richard@jarkman.co.uk	
Phone: +44 (0)1495 762385	Mobile: +44 (0)7973 775743

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:41:01 +0200
From: Florian Cramer <cantsin@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Richard Stallman: Thousands dead, millions deprived 
     of civil liberties?

Am Tue, 18.Sep.2001 um 16:06:38 +0200 schrieb Florian Cramer:
> Thousands dead, millions deprived of civil liberties?
> 
> By Richard Stallman

Follow-up to this posting: I wrote a German translation of
this text which is temporarily available at
<http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/stallman_deutsch.txt>.  

Richard would like it to be peer-reviewed/proof-read by a native English
speaker who also reads German before I put it officially into
circulation.

If native English speakers on Nettime could help, I would very much
appreciate it!

Florian

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