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<nettime> extra! post-9/11 news digest [mod note; armitage x2 + andrews] |
[mod note: i abbreviated (<...>) the news items in this digest because the URLs provided still work (for now). over the last few weeks, a LOT of people have sent in news items, which poses a problem: they're interesting for the most part, but nettime isn't primarily a wire service--and as the list grows (-l/-digest just passed 2100 subscribers today...), tendencies like forwarding news items can become more problematic. the moderators usually ask people to re-send news with a URL + remarks about why a news story is relevant to nettime as such-- which seems like a minimal and flexible way to strike a balance on this aspect of the list. cheers, t] John Armitage <[email protected]> Conflict Will Follow Taliban's Fall John Armitage <[email protected]> American Action Is Held Likely in Asia Ian andrews <[email protected]> Re: <nettime> Brzezinski: Taliban made in U.S.A. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: John Armitage <[email protected]> Subject: Conflict Will Follow Taliban's Fall Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:23:41 +0100 [Or, get ready for 'Vietnam: The Sequel'?. John.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ http://www.stratfor.com/home/0110091630.htm Conflict Will Follow Taliban's Fall 1630 GMT, 011009 Summary The United States has begun its military campaign in Afghanistan without first forging a post-Taliban regime. Although opposition forces will take advantage of U.S. air strikes to attempt to drive the Taliban from power, this will only usher in another round of fighting among the victors. Because the United States needs a friendly and stable regime in Kabul to facilitate its primary mission of rooting out Osama bin Laden and his Afghan Arabs, it will find itself drawn into an attempt at nation-building in Afghanistan. This is an intractable problem that could draw the United States into a lengthy, costly and ultimately doomed engagement in Afghanistan at the expense of its primary mission. Analysis <...> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: John Armitage <[email protected]> Subject: American Action Is Held Likely in Asia Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:58:36 +0100 [ Next stop: Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia -- are the Globocops on a world tour? John.] =========================================== http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/international/asia/10INTE.html?todaysheadl ines=&pagewanted=print October 10, 2001 ======================= http://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times GLOBAL LINKS American Action Is Held Likely in Asia By TIM WEINER WASHINGTON, Oct. 9 - Terrorists tied to Osama bin Laden's network and based in the Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia are among the likely targets of future covert and overt American actions, United States officials said today. The officials gave no timetable; they said the campaign against the groups linked to Mr. bin Laden and his group, Al Qaeda, is global and may last for years. But they said that the East Asian groups have expanded their operations in recent years, exchanging money, personnel, materiel and experience with the bin Laden organization and its allies, and that they pose a clear and present danger to American institutions overseas. <...> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:33:28 +1000 From: Ian andrews <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <nettime> Brzezinski: Taliban made in U.S.A. Very interesting interview. Its quite likely that the CIA provoked the USSR into the war, but I really think that the Afghanistan war had very little effect on the collapse of the Soviet Union. I think it pales into insignificance next to the efforts of COCOM (CIA) to destabilize the Soviet economy and bankroll the Russian Mafia with hard currency, or even the internal effects of Perestroika. >[the interview is just so brilliant compact, I didn�t want you to miss] > >http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm > >Ex-National Security Chief Brzezinski admits: Afghan Islamism Was Made in >Washington > >Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National >Security Adviser in 'Le Nouvel Observateur' (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. >76 > >Translated by Bill Blum > >*** > >A couple of thoughts about the Brzezinski interview below. First, it flatly >contradicts the common justification for U.S. actions in Afghanistan during >the 1980s: that the U.S. simply aided forces resisting Soviet imperialism. >Brzezinski makes clear that the Soviets were baited into sending forces to >Afghanistan; thus their actions were defensive. Moreover, the U.S. used the >violent Wahhabi (Saudi Arabian) form of Islam to create a monster-movement >which plagues the world today. For more on this, see 'Articles Documenting >U.S. Creation of Taliban and bin Laden's Terrorist Network' at >http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/doc.htm <...> Ian Andrews Metro Screen Sydney Email: [email protected] http://www.metroscreen.com.au 1981 - 2001 Metro Screen is a celebrating 20 years of access and innovation in independent screen production. Metro Screen Sydney Film Centre Paddington Town Hall P.O. 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