<nettime> elitism within the governing tensions digest [x2: geer, lovink]

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dan@geer.org
     Re: <nettime> tensions? elites? governance?
Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl>
     Re: <nettime> tensions within the bay area elites

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From: dan@geer.org
To: allan siegel <allan@allansiegel.info>
Subject: Re: <nettime> tensions? elites? governance?
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 07:23:56 -0400

I might suggest, Sir, that at least amongst (us) libertarians,
left libertarians and right libertarians have found that they
have much more in common with each other than with either the
Demoblicans or the Republicrats.

Just saying,

--dan

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From: Geert Lovink <geert@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: <nettime> tensions within the bay area elites
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:44:59 +0200

Dear nettimers,

do you have to deal with a troll, ignore them (as the old wisdom 
advices?), point each other at old issues that are still there (such as 
gentrification), expect from progressive Californians that organize 
themselves and do something against their own corporations such as 
Google? Or is this a 'global' responsibility? And what happens when we 
wake up one morning and find out that it is the 'evil' Germans who are 
most vocal in their Google criticism? What's to be done? I believe in 
organized networks, in stunning campaign design, in amoral activism, 
unsettling art works

Here is the update, finally, in English, about the anti-Google movements 
in Germany:

http://www.zdnet.com/anti-google-rhetoric-heats-up-in-germany-amid-threats
-of-a-break-up-7000029602/

As usual, Jeff Jarvis, is upset. Are you too? Naughty Germans!

Geert

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